Homosexuality
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(06-23-2012, 10:23 AM)cgraye Wrote:
(06-23-2012, 12:59 AM)Crusading Philologist Wrote: I don't know if God really determined the effects of original sin. I think the idea is more that original sin tarnished the image of God in man. The effects of original sin are just the natural consequences of sinning, especially when you remember that evil is privative. Thinking of original sin on this more ontological level avoids overly anthropomorphic conceptions of God, I think, and it also perhaps makes the doctrine easier to understand.

"Natural" is nothing more than a term for a rule which God consistently applies.  Every consequence is something designed by God, from the result of original sin down to the laws of motion.

I'm not entirely sure. If God just is Being, Goodness, Truth, Beauty, and so on, then only these things can come from God. Something like sin, which has no being of its own but is merely a privation of the good, cannot really come from God. This is because sin ultimately has no reality before God, and so its only effect is to nudge us toward nonbeing or the "region of dissimilarity," as St. Augustine put it. So, if sin is just pulling away from God and moving toward nothingness, then I don't think we really have to say that He determines its effects. Sin just is what it is to be the opposite of God, so I guess in some sense the effects of sin are determined by God's essence, but I'm not sure if that means that we can say that he actually determines the effects of sin.
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Homosexuality - by salus - 06-22-2012, 10:25 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Mithrandylan - 06-22-2012, 10:26 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Walty - 06-22-2012, 10:32 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by salus - 06-22-2012, 10:40 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by formerbuddhist - 06-22-2012, 10:53 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by formerbuddhist - 06-22-2012, 10:54 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by DrBombay - 06-22-2012, 11:03 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by salus - 06-22-2012, 11:13 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by WesternWarrior - 06-23-2012, 12:18 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by cgraye - 06-23-2012, 12:21 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by cgraye - 06-23-2012, 12:27 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by WesternWarrior - 06-23-2012, 12:30 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Crusading Philologist - 06-23-2012, 12:59 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Lycorth - 06-23-2012, 01:08 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by jovan66102 - 06-23-2012, 03:18 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Aragon - 06-23-2012, 04:28 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Sondaar - 06-23-2012, 04:49 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by LoyalVIews - 06-23-2012, 08:13 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by cgraye - 06-23-2012, 10:23 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Historian - 06-23-2012, 10:36 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Melkite - 06-23-2012, 11:28 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Historian - 06-23-2012, 11:46 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Lycorth - 06-23-2012, 11:57 AM
Re: Homosexuality - by Melkite - 06-23-2012, 12:05 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Historian - 06-23-2012, 12:16 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by SLCFranciscan - 06-23-2012, 01:41 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by salus - 06-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Crusading Philologist - 06-23-2012, 05:20 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Walty - 06-23-2012, 05:43 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Vetus Ordo - 06-23-2012, 06:33 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Melkite - 06-23-2012, 11:26 PM
Re: Homosexuality - by Historian - 06-24-2012, 01:00 AM



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