Woodburn priest chased boy down street after abuse
#41
ggreg,

My inner medievalist reminds me that in 14th century England, a rape victim was expected to choose how the rapist would be mutilated. Sometimes she would even be expected to personally take blade in hand, gouge his eyes out, castrate him, and/or force-feed him his own severed genitals.

Makes sense to me.
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#42
In all seriousness I couldn't see Jesus Christ advocating torture.
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#43
(08-20-2012, 11:57 AM)Jamey77 Wrote: In all seriousness I couldn't see Jesus Christ advocating torture.

There's a lot of stuff Jesus wouldn't advocate that gets passed off as traditional Catholicism.
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#44
(08-20-2012, 11:57 AM)Jamey77 Wrote: In all seriousness I couldn't see Jesus Christ advocating torture.

Why is it "torture"?

It is simply punishment with pain and suffering.

Torture is usually associated with getting the person to reveal information or do something against their will.

I'll advocating killing them in a nasty way so that their death is not, relatively speaking, quick and painless.

Jesus could have chosen to be killed with a quick thrust from a Legionaires spear or a sword through the neck and heart.  He in fact died a very prolonged and painful death as did most of the Apostles.  They were innocent but I don't see that the punishments were wrong in any absolute sense.  If they were then the Catholic Church has sat by and watched centuries of Catholic Kings and Governments perform similarly painful capital punishments without much condemnation.

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#45
By the UN definition prison itself could be defined as torture.  You certainly suffer (very much) mentally in prison.  I picked up a lady from prison this weekend and drove her home and emotionally she was a wreck.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...rture.html

Why make a distinction between mental suffering as a form of punishment or physical suffering.

I would prefer six of the best to get my telephone banking done rather than calling some robotic Indian in the HSBC call centre.  I find call centres "torturous"
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#46
(08-20-2012, 02:42 PM)ggreg Wrote: Why is it "torture"?

It is simply punishment with pain and suffering.

Torture is usually associated with getting the person to reveal information or do something against their will.

I'll advocating killing them in a nasty way so that their death is not, relatively speaking, quick and painless.

Jesus could have chosen to be killed with a quick thrust from a Legionaires spear or a sword through the neck and heart.  He in fact died a very prolonged and painful death as did most of the Apostles.  They were innocent but I don't see that the punishments were wrong in any absolute sense.  If they were then the Catholic Church has sat by and watched centuries of Catholic Kings and Governments perform similarly painful capital punishments without much condemnation.

If you have that big a boner for medieval practices, maybe you should park your ass at a renaissance festival, rather than torturing and murdering criminals, and thus consigning your soul to eternal flames.
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#47
Jesus took a whip to the money lenders in the Temple.  In any "civilised country" today that would be an abuse of their human rights and Jesus would be convicted for battery and bodily harm.

Again, I ask you.  Why is punishment with pain for a crime you've been convicted of 'torture'?

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#48
(08-17-2012, 02:08 PM)Melkite Wrote:
(08-17-2012, 10:10 AM)ggreg Wrote: We are all sinners.

It's just that some of us sinners need to go to confession and keep fighting the good fight and others need to be fed to hungry pigs while still alive or have petrol poured on them and be set alight.

Leave Perez to me and I would give him a slow and painful death. He deserves it.

What is it with you and your desire to be the vengeful executioner of homosexuals?  This is rediculous, you are a travesty of Catholicism.

Er...what? Were talkin kiddy fiddlers here.Not run of the mill Homos.
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#49
(08-20-2012, 04:09 PM)ggreg Wrote: Jesus took a whip to the money lenders in the Temple.  In any "civilised country" today that would be an abuse of their human rights and Jesus would be convicted for battery and bodily harm.

Again, I ask you.  Why is punishment with pain for a crime you've been convicted of 'torture'?

Punishment with pain is not the same thing as torture.  If you can't see the difference between taking a whip to the money collectors and relishing putting pedophiles to a slow and painful death, there's probably nothing anyone can say to make you see reason.  But, to clarify, I see it as problematic to suggest putting anyone to a slow and painful death, but what I see as by far more an issue is your desire to take part in it and enjoy doing it.  It's that aspect that makes you sick.
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#50
Why is a soldier who joins the army to kill his country's enemy any different?

My desire is to see as little child abuse as possible. A painful death would seem to me to be a deterant. I would make men convicted of possessing child porn witness the execution.

Re-offence rate would be zero.

Honest men could be scout masters and gym coaches without suspicions and doubt. There are many positives.
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