"Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLXXIV - 274
#21
(10-15-2012, 09:37 PM)Adeodatus01 Wrote:
(10-13-2012, 02:05 AM)CollegeCatholic Wrote: In effect we say to our leaders, “We elected you to tell us good, strong lies, and to hold us tight in our godlessness. Please do a 9/11, a 7/7 (U.K.’s 9/11), or anything you like, just so long as we can go on believing in you as a substitute for God to look after us.

Is he advancing the notion that the government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks?

If so, that would be the nadir of absurdity and crackpotism.

Because???....  I take it you can call something crackpotism and absurdity because you are well informed on all aspects of a particular topic in order to render judgement.  

Please supply  a list of what books you've read on the matter,
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#22
I think the only organization not yet accused of being responsible for 9/11 is the Girl Scouts.  :Hmm:

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#23
The amount of personnel and money required to fake an attack on that level would be astronomical. And yet, over the past decade, not an iota of evidence has surfaced of this conspiracy or coverup, despite the fact that it pissed off an entire nation. Not a single member of USSOCOM... not a single junior or senior officer, DELTA operator, Navy SEAL, contractor, nobody... has come forward? So I'm supposed to believe that billions of dollars in funds just disappear, and thousands of people at all levels of government and civil life (who themselves had to be put in place over a course of years... so actually make that tens of thousands of people) simply clam up and remain silent... no one has a crisis of conscience, not one has a single moment of patriotic feeling for his country?

The negativity with which such a proposition must be assessed rules out any boundary of hyperbole. Its batshit insanity is self-evident.
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#24
(10-15-2012, 09:59 PM)Adeodatus01 Wrote: The amount of personnel and money required to fake an attack on that level would be astronomical. And yet, over the past decade, not an iota of evidence has surfaced of this conspiracy or coverup, despite the fact that it pissed off an entire nation. Not a single member of USSOCOM... not a single junior or senior officer, DELTA operator, Navy SEAL, contractor, nobody... has come forward? So I'm supposed to believe that billions of dollars in funds just disappear, and thousands of people at all levels of government and civil life (who themselves had to be put in place over a course of years... so actually make that tens of thousands of people) simply clam up and remain silent... no one has a crisis of conscience, not one has a single moment of patriotic feeling for his country?

The negativity with which such a proposition must be assessed rules out any boundary of hyperbole. Its batshit insanity is self-evident.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-325985.html

Quote:The War On Waste

By Aleen Sirgany

On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

Just last week President Bush announced, "my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending."

More money for the Pentagon, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports, while its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends.

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service.

Minnery, a former Marine turned whistle-blower, is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agency's balance sheets. Minnery tried to follow the money trail, even crisscrossing the country looking for records.

"The director looked at me and said 'Why do you care about this stuff?' It took me aback, you know? My supervisor asking me why I care about doing a good job," said Minnery.

He was reassigned and says officials then covered up the problem by just writing it off.

"They have to cover it up," he said. "That's where the corruption comes in. They have to cover up the fact that they can't do the job."

The Pentagon's Inspector General "partially substantiated" several of Minnery's allegations but could not prove officials tried "to manipulate the financial statements."

Twenty years ago, Department of Defense Analyst Franklin C. Spinney made headlines exposing what he calls the "accounting games." He's still there, and although he does not speak for the Pentagon, he believes the problem has gotten worse.

"Those numbers are pie in the sky. The books are cooked routinely year after year," he said.

Another critic of Pentagon waste, Retired Vice Admiral Jack Shanahan, commanded the Navy's 2nd Fleet the first time Donald Rumsfeld served as Defense Secretary, in 1976.

In his opinion, "With good financial oversight we could find $48 billion in loose change in that building, without having to hit the taxpayers."


MMII, CBS Worldwide Inc. All Rights Reserved

emphasis mine
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#25
Good ol' Feser:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/01/...ories.html
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#26
(10-15-2012, 10:40 PM)Scriptorium Wrote: Good ol' Feser:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2009/01/...ories.html

Can you give us a tl;dr?
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(10-15-2012, 09:59 PM)Adeodatus01 Wrote: The amount of personnel and money required to fake an attack on that level would be astronomical. And yet, over the past decade, not an iota of evidence has surfaced of this conspiracy or coverup, despite the fact that it pissed off an entire nation. Not a single member of USSOCOM... not a single junior or senior officer, DELTA operator, Navy SEAL, contractor, nobody... has come forward? So I'm supposed to believe that billions of dollars in funds just disappear, and thousands of people at all levels of government and civil life (who themselves had to be put in place over a course of years... so actually make that tens of thousands of people) simply clam up and remain silent... no one has a crisis of conscience, not one has a single moment of patriotic feeling for his country?

The negativity with which such a proposition must be assessed rules out any boundary of hyperbole. Its batshit insanity is self-evident.

I'm not interested in your conclusions, I'm interested in your argument for rejecting arguments.  What books have you read to form your opinion? 

You seem to already believe a conspiracy of 20 men could pull it off in a rather cost-effective way. 

The only other alternative is your uncited version where it must be costly and take thousands of participants with full knowledge?  C'mon. 

That is crackpotism and absurdity. 

Now answer the question, what is the extent of your studies on the subject? 

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#28
(10-15-2012, 10:28 AM)newyorkcatholic Wrote: Interesting to know that Bishop Williamson recommends Flanner O'Connor :-).
Yes, I noticed that, too. Ms. O'Connor would read a few articles of the Summa before falling asleep, so of course Dinoscopus knows she's orthodox. :)
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#29
(10-15-2012, 10:43 AM)FlosCampi Wrote: Bishop Williamson  has been expelled from the Society of SSPX.


:(( Sad but not surprising.
It's not official yet.
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#30
(10-15-2012, 05:02 PM)lumine Wrote: I liked it until the last paragraph.  Is the Bishop saying that we are being deceived about 9/11?
Well many are.
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