Recent Synod enshrines Religious Liberty
(10-30-2012, 09:16 PM)Phillipus Iacobus Wrote: This shouldn't be that coercion. No one, including any government power, can coerce others to accept Catholicism, but this doesn't mean that we have a right to religious liberty, as it is in the United States and most of the world.

Nor should one use the "imagine how life would be without religious liberty" line. Yes, it would be unfortunate to live in a State where State Protestantism, Orthodoxy, Islam, or even Atheism meant that the Church had to go underground, but these would simply be errors in fact, whilst religious liberty, or a lack of state religion, in an error in principal.

If one cannot coerce, nor be coerced, then how do you define the lack of coercion other than liberty to choose a false religion; aka religious liberty? They possess the ability to choose something other than Catholicism, thus they possess the liberty to choose something other than Catholicism. This liberty, protected by the state, lest it coerce, becomes a civil right.

You're arguing against coercion, yet providing no way to guarantee non-coercion without effectively having the state step in. You currently reside in the US, right? You then possess two choices for a state model: coercion to a false religion (thus going underground), or no coercion at all via no state religion.

Fantasy-land theology is useless.  We live in the real world.

ETA: you possess two choices: 1) leave the country and go where Catholicism is the state religion (which basically means not a damn thing at this point) 2) breed out the Protestants and everyone else; take over the country (the muslim model). You also have a third option which is more likely a scenario: deal with it and philosophize on the interwebz about some distributist-monarchist-ad orientem fantasy land.

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Re: Recent Synod enshrines Religious Liberty - by SMKMI - 10-30-2012, 11:06 PM

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