New Evangelization: Legalize homosexuality, promote civil partnerships
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(02-06-2013, 04:24 PM)Mithrandylan Wrote:
(02-06-2013, 08:39 AM)Tim Wrote: Who compels you to twist the words ? He did not say legalize homosexuality. He said we, as all, including homosexuals are children of God with equal dignity. The Father of Lies is Satan, and now you know why many wonder about trads like you.

tim

The bishop is twisting his own words.  He is essentially saying that homosexuals should be protected (legally) as couples living together, (using "human dignity" as the reason) and that homosexuality (but I think he means sodomy*) should be legal.  Just don't call it marriage.  Give them all the benefits of being married, and then just call it a different name.  And THEN he talks about consequences, and oh the consequences he talks about!  The words "mother, father, brother and sister" might disappear from our vocabulary... and while I share as much concern for etymological integrity as the next trad, that's hardly the "big fish to fry."

*Some may contend that the bishop is referring simply to people with SSA, and that SSA shouldn't be made illegal.  I would disagree that this is what he means.  Show me a single country that has outlawed SSA.  Or has the term "being homosexual" (and clearly defining this as SSA) under the "illegal" column in their constitution.  On the other hand, there ARE a few countries who have outlawed sodomy, which is the normally considered mode of homosexual actions.  Even some states still outlaw it.

Please do provide evidence to the contrary (that countries outlaw SSA).  If this IS what the bishop meant (we shouldn't outlaw SSA) then he chose his words very poorly, and doesn't know what he's talking about (unless, of course, it turns out 20-25 countries DO outlaw SSA, in which case it turns out that I don't know what I'm talking about).

ETA: and of course, his appeal to protecting democracy is... icky.

Well put.  I am not comfortable with the Church adopting democracy in its modern, republican form like it did the Roman imperial system or feudalism.  Both of the latter eventually accepted the primacy of the Church to teach doctrine and morals.  The former, like communism, does not agree that the Church is the ultimate voice of morality and doctrine. 
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Re: New Evangelization: Legalize homosexuality, promote civil partnerships - by Warrenton - 02-06-2013, 09:33 PM



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