Is this the Bishop in White 3rd Secret of Fatima message
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(02-26-2013, 10:56 PM)DustinsDad Wrote:
(02-26-2013, 04:23 PM)Tim Wrote: I've said this more than once, this is not the Apocalypse. That means all of the admonitions do not apply. This is before the Apocalypse and it solely what is contained in Our Lady's words at Fatima. Conflating these two is the reason many think we are nuts. Every time someone bridges this by welding on the Great Monarch to arrive at the Antichrist, I cringe.

The Great Monarch is separate, and in my estimation a romantic piece of silliness. There is no mention of it in Our Lady's words, and don't you think if it were pertinent she'd mention it= ?. You know like in the vision he rides in after the Pope dies and slays all the soldiers. ? Our Lady said it would be her Triumph, so no room for a Pope or a Monarch. Period. The Pope's  responsibility was to publish the secret and Consecrate Russia.

If you think about this, it is the way forward since the Old European Christendom path is gone forever. No more Kings. She will somehow bridge the nations to her Son until He comes. If as some predict that 2/3 will perish, Europe will be nearly complete annihilation. The no longer have faith. When America, the wilderness, is more Catholic in it's people, Europe is no longer the focus.

I'm not certain what is coming but looking in the rear view mirror doesn't help.

tim
 

I no longer have the book "Trials, Tribulation and Triumph" (loaned it out a few years ago and it hasn't come back yet) , but the author Desmond Birch had gatherdd numerous approved private revelations and the Great Monarch and Great Pope were a pretty consistant element I thought of the minor chastisement.

I always connected those two individuals with it in the sense of the period of peace promised by Our Lady. Who knows how its all going to play out, but if it gets as bad as it seems to be prophesied, I wouldn't think it too outrageous for a Great Pope and Great King rising from the ashes in the middle of this thing and being used by God to bring it all to a close and usher in the Age of Mary.

You are totally correct (at least from my reading) that this is not the Parousia, not THE great chastisemnt with THE antichrist, etc., but a conditional minor chastisement that can be alleviated or averted depending on mankind's response.

I read that book as well. His was trying to explain to people the Antichrist is not a movement or political party or government, that he is a human. He then made the case for the minor chastisement coming before the End Times. He quoted many different seers, all pointing to that event, but none with the identical narrative. He also quoted some Fathers that had written on the same minor chastisement, meaning it came from the Apostles.

All prophecies of seers are conditional. The potato famine in France and Ireland came because they were working on Sundays and using the Lord Jesus name in their cursing. Not stopped so they payed. The other prophecies were so different and from diverse times and locations that I assume they are not a single thread of a prophecy of the conditional minor chastisement Our Lady spoke about.

I believe the Apparition at Fatima and the vision and message is singular. It's importance is verified by the miracle of the sun. None of the other seer's prophecies, as the audios which have been posted pointed out, these apparitions are in a line of them, where Our Lady is warning us of coming events, nd of the Apostasy. These apparitions are in Europe because it was once Christendom and is no longer faithful. This is the focus, and the rest of us are not the focus, though we will pay as well.

In the audio they join the Triumph of the Sacred Heart to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. This makes perfect sense. If we are to receive a period of peace before the end times, then those countries and nations which are left will have to confess Christ the King in the temporal world. That is the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, she is the Mother and she will bring all her children to see her Son the King. She is the Davidic Mother Queen.

Back to 3DD and the Monarch and the Pope, I don't see this at all. That doesn't mean it isn't part of this, just I think this is from heaven directly. I do think St. Malachi of Armagh is accurate. Especially because while it was "lost" in the Vatican Library, churchmen re-wrote them until it was re-discovered. The next pope is the last and is Peter the Roman. The name is obscured as all prophecy, so only those that believe can see, and the rest can scoff.

Cardinal Spellman hired a yacht during the conclave which gave us Pope John XXIII. That prophecy said he was a sailor and a shepherd. Cardinal Spellman had the yacht loaded with sheep and sailed up and down the Tiber..I'd bet if you ask the Cardinals right now they believe it too !

tim

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