Question about Atkins
#11
All this talk about lettuce prompts me to tell a joke:
 
A man comes to the doctor with a piece of lettuce sticking out from his behind. The doctor examines him and while he is doing so, the man says: "How bad is it, Doc?"
"Well, I'm afraid it is only the tip of the iceberg....." [Image: biggrin.gif]
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#12
Ah yes...The Atkins Diet......I went on it...staryed in ketosis for months....had a heart attack....The nurses at the hospital told me it wasn't unusual to see Atkins people on the caridac unit.  It's all that fat and protein.....

I once weighte 200 lbs...I'm under five feet tall.....I lost 85 pounds...Mostly on the Atkins Diet.....I've gained abaout fifteen pounds back, and have just joined Weight Watchers to get "tweaked" so to speak....I need a little help this time.  Might be my age, I don't know, but this time it is HARD to lose the pouonds.  And I do exercise several times a week....water aerobics...and just bought a mini-trampoline. 

My advice is to stay away from the Atkins Diet...It works...but at what price?  No Dr I know likes it...It's better to eat lots of whole grains, veggies and fruits....some protein....though you don't need as much as you think  you do....drink lots of water.....exercise...etc.....Extremes do often work, but they are generally not a healthy way to go. 

Sandy

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#13
I think there is a right and wrong way to do just about any diet. Atkins is a very healthy diet for most people, but you have to do the cooking and not buy the junk food bars. They defeat the purpose. Same with bacon and other high fat foods. Atkins is not carte blanche to load up on all these salty, fatty foods, even though they are so yummy. [Image: gimmefood.gif] 
 
Atkins is not a low fat diet, to be sure. It is not high protein, either. It is low-carb. To be successful on a low-carb diet you have to skip the low-fat items because they are full of sugars to make up for their lack of flavor. It is better to make your own salad dressings, etc., so you can choose healthier fats like olive oil. Most store bought dressings have soybean oil and corn syrup in them. Low-fat dressings have mostly corn syrup.
 
Atkins also calls for veggies, lots of veggies. Even on induction you are supposed to eat 3 cups of veggies a day. Most people shouldn't stay on induction for longer than the recommended 2 weeks without consulting their physician. I stayed on it for 2-3 weeks then started adding carbs back in. The hardest part of the diet is finding the right ratio of carbs and proteins to maintain an ideal weight range.
 
I have not heard of any doctor (except the book writing low-fat champions) say anything but good about Atkins. Dr. Atkins was a cardiologist himself. Even the hospital-run weight loss center in my area uses Atkins, or a modified version of it, depending on the client. The Atkins diet is beneficial for most people because it lowers insulin levels. It was recommended to me when I was pregnant to control weight gain, it is safe for nursing mothers, and it helped me lose alot of weight, 55 lbs.
 
Some of the benefits I experienced were getting to throw away a prescription of diuretics (diuretics are a great way to have a heart attack) and my blood pressure is perfect, without medication. If I eat something with grains, I start retaining water again. If I feel like I need something sweet I try to stick with berries, but I love chocolate and dark chocolate is a treat that I indulge in every so often. If I eat too much sweet stuff, I start craving it, and end up in a yo-yo effect which is very unhealthy. I had to learn my limitations and stick within them, which is probably true for any diet.
 
Btw, my sister is a low-fat dieter.  She was only successful in her effort several years ago when she ran in marathons. She has terrible cholesterol levels and is obese, but still stays on a low-fat diet. I think it is going to end up killing her. I got her to try Atkins, but she only stayed on it a few days because she felt awful as her insulin levels began to decline. (Carbs trigger insulin production, protein and fats don't, so the levels decline.) Still, she was surprised at how quickly she lost weight, even in a few days. I hope she will find something healthier than her low-fat diet soon. I suspect that she was trying to do Atkins without fats, which leaves nothing for energy.
 
Ok, I am done rambling. LOL. Good luck to everyone in their dieting endeavors. I wonder if there is a patron saint for dieters. [Image: angel.gif]
 
I have a question:
 
What does everyone do for exercise with their diets? We learned in anatomy and physiology that exercise is more important than dietary factors when it comes to cardiovascular health because of anastomosis. When we exercise, we use more oxygen, and our body responds by building more capillary connections to accomodate the increased demand. With more cardiovascular connections there is less chance of sustaining major damage from a blockage (heart attack) That is why couch potatoes have more and more serious heart attacks than active people, no matter what diet they are on.
 
S.A.G. ~ Kathy ~ Sanguine-choleric. Have fun...or else.

Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi, quia per sanctam crucem tuam redemisti mundum.
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#14
the first mistaken people take when going or thinking of going on the Atkins diet is that they don't understand what kind of meat they should be eating. Dr. Atkins himself always advocated meat and eggs from grass-fed or pastured animals which are leaner than grain-fed, just think about it grain are used to fatten up the calf; so if you are what you eat if you eat fat animals you will be fat, eat sick animals and you will be sick. Also the meat of grass-fed animals have 1 to 1 ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 which the proper ratio are good health.
 
Grass-fed meats are what you should be eating if you want the Atkins diet to work in shorter time. Also remember to stay away from white flour, white sugar, white fat and white milk; that's right milk and fat should not be white like it is today, this comes from the purely grain diet which animals receive today. Animals mostly eating grass will have beta-caretine in their fat meaning that it will have anywhere from a pink to a red-orange tint to it. www.realmilk.com and www.westonaprice.org have more information in why it's health as well.
 
Jonathan
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#15
It seems that most people have been largely misinformed about the Atkins diet.  In fact, I think that the Atkins food company has contributed with their sales pitches for their Isolated soy protein junk-food chemical bars.
 
Whenever I follow Atkins, I avoid saying that I follow Atkins, because it paints a picture of nothing but meat, bacon, and more meat, followed by a pat of lard.
 
When following Atkins, I tell people I'm on a health food diet that consists of mostly vegetables, mostly in the form of raw salads.  Supplemented with as much organic meat as I can reasonably afford, and home-made salad dressing made from Extra virgin Olive Oil, and naturally fermented apple vinegar.  I limit myself to one half-serving of fruit a day.  And that is the Atkins' diet.  And most people would never argue that it's very healthy.
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#16
miss_fluffy Wrote:It seems that most people have been largely misinformed about the Atkins diet.  In fact, I think that the Atkins food company has contributed with their sales pitches for their Isolated soy protein junk-food chemical bars.
 
Whenever I follow Atkins, I avoid saying that I follow Atkins, because it paints a picture of nothing but meat, bacon, and more meat, followed by a pat of lard.
 
When following Atkins, I tell people I'm on a health food diet that consists of mostly vegetables, mostly in the form of raw salads.  Supplemented with as much organic meat as I can reasonably afford, and home-made salad dressing made from Extra virgin Olive Oil, and naturally fermented apple vinegar.  I limit myself to one half-serving of fruit a day.  And that is the Atkins' diet.  And most people would never argue that it's very healthy.
Miss Fluffy, just because they don't or won't argue that it's healthy does not mean that it IS healthy and IT'S NOT! Most fruits and veggies in the stores today are dead and depleted of most their trace mineral and even some macro mineral content so they are not healthy. Most people think black or purple carrots would be unhealthy and unnatural but in fact the orange carrot did not become popular until the American settlers started producing just the orange kind. The facts show that we were healthier when we eat more animal fats and less sugar especially inverted white sugar and no soybeans or their oil, the problem today is that the meat is different even before they kill it: most cattle are fed in feedlots today which means they'll eat most grains, but the sad fact is that they are fed newspaper at times and other such non-foods such as soy and cottonseeds. Cattle are meant to be grazed and pastured on fresh green grass with sunshine and fresh air and water and as well that means they must move to get their food and so get exercise.
 
For more info on how bad soy is please read this: http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html and http://www.thewholesoystory.com/
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#17
Orangemetal... I'm way ahead of you.  I've been into the Weston Price stuff for years and have a couple of their recommended books on natural cooking and sustainable farming.
 
But everyday people are not necessarily going to hear everything that the natural food philosophies have to offer.  You have to work with things bit by bit.  And personally, I think that conventionally grown fruit and vegetables are better than eating the processed/fried crap that passes for food.  I know people who don't eat any fruits and vegetables just because they can't afford the organic stuff.  As if the processed soy burgers are somehow healthier [Image: huh.gif]
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