Did mary have a vaginal Birth.
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ImpyTerwilliger Wrote:It was not a natural birth.  "Repugnance" has nothing to do with it.  It was a supernatural birth.  This is the Catholic faith.  See, e.g., Denzinger (1957), 314a, n. 3:

Quote:Leo XIII accepted the profession of faith offered by Nicephorus, Patriarch of Constantinople, in the year 811, according to which God "also preserved the virgin who supernaturally and ineffably had given birth; after the bringing forth, her virginity according to nature in no part being changed or destroyed."

It was indeed supernatural. It is possible for the birth of our Lord to have occurred through the normative bodily structures of our Lady, but simultaneously supernatural in that it did not damage her bodily integrity in the process. As Satori indicated, our Lord's birth was certainly not a "normal" birth (i.e. the pains of labor, rupture of hymen, etc.), but that does not mean that the birth bypassed the bodily structures that our Lady possessed entirely. Christ's birth may certainly have occurred via our Lady's birth canal while supernaturally preserving her virginity at the same time. Much like the Hypostatic Union, our Lord's birth may be a union of both natural and supernatural (human/divine) processes.

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Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by jim111 - 04-29-2013, 07:01 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by moneil - 04-29-2013, 08:48 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by DrBombay - 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Poche - 04-30-2013, 04:29 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by SCG - 04-30-2013, 09:14 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 04-30-2013, 11:50 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Tim - 04-30-2013, 12:49 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Doce Me - 04-30-2013, 01:49 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by loggats - 04-30-2013, 03:56 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by loggats - 04-30-2013, 04:12 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 04-30-2013, 04:53 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 04-30-2013, 06:27 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 04-30-2013, 06:27 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by DrBombay - 04-30-2013, 07:17 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Poche - 05-01-2013, 03:41 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Felix E - 05-01-2013, 03:51 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Joshua - 05-01-2013, 04:32 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Tim - 05-01-2013, 08:48 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 05-01-2013, 10:36 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by SCG - 05-01-2013, 12:07 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Joshua - 05-01-2013, 04:29 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Warrenton - 05-01-2013, 05:10 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Doce Me - 05-01-2013, 07:02 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Warrenton - 05-01-2013, 07:26 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 05-01-2013, 08:04 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Tenmaru - 05-01-2013, 11:03 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Satori - 05-01-2013, 11:06 PM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Warrenton - 05-02-2013, 01:01 AM
Re: Did mary have a vaginal Birth. - by Joshua - 05-02-2013, 02:30 AM



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