June 25 - Supposed "Emergency" Meeting of the Roman Curia
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Pope’s eight cardinal advisors say the Curia is not the only thing they’ll be reforming

The cardinals Francis nominated as advisors in April are also looking into some unresolved issues in the Church
Andrea Tornielli
6/25/13

Although their official meeting will be in October, they are already moving full steam ahead with their work and will use the summer months to prepare thoroughly for their first meeting. The eight cardinals Francis chose as his advisors last 13 April, exactly one month after his election, are currently mulling over ideas and proposals. And they will not just be dealing with Curia reform.

When the Vatican Secretariat of State announced Francis’ decision to set up the advisory group, it specified that it was established “to advise him [the Pope] in the government of the universal Church and to study a plan for revising the Apostolic Constitution on the Roman Curia, 'Pastor Bonus'.” Advising the Pope on the running of the universal Church is certainly no less important than the council’s task of reforming the Curia, but the latter will be the council’s main focus.

Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga is responsible for coordinating the group of eight cardinals he himself is a member of (Giuseppe Bertello, Francisco Javier Errázuriz Ossa, Oswald Gracias, Reinhard Marx, Laurent Monsengwo Pasinya, Sean Patrick O’Malley, George Pell, Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga). The council’s secretary is the Bishops of Albano (Italy), Marcello Semeraro. A representative of the Middle Eastern Churches could also join the group at some point in the future. They are all cardinals and therefore work closely with the Pope. At the same time, they also work or worked within the bodies that represent Episcopal Conferences: the need to improve the relationship between the central Church in Rome and the local Churches was a subject which came up prior to the Conclave that elected Francis. During the summer, the council is expected to draw up a document defining the nature and identity of the council.

The eight cardinals have held separate meetings with the Pope, they are in constant contact, and they share material and ideas regarding possible reforms. A great deal has been said about the Roman Curia: During the pre-Conclave meetings a clear need emerged for structures to be streamlined, certain offices merged, improved coordination among dicasteries and improved communication between these and the Pope. Although the reform of the Holy See’s financial and economical structures are not at the top of the council’s list of priorities, council coordinator Maradiaga’s words indicate that this area will not be excluded.

The summer will be a time to organise and share the material gathered so far. The eight cardinals will look beyond the Curia and its reform – necessary though it is. They will also focus on proposals regarding Church life in general, following Francis’ indications. Some of these topics have been mentioned in the Pope’s recent speeches. When Francis met members of the Synod’s Secretariat, he emphasised the need to reflect on family related problems, on the fact that so many people today do not marry but choose to live together and marriage becomes “provisional”.

The Pope encouraged reflection on the new evangelisation, using Paul VI’s Evangelii nuntiandi as inspiration and an awareness of the fact that society’s conditions force us to rethink our methods  and to try to think of how to bring the Christian message to the people of today. On 13 June, Francis said we need to allow ourselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit, even if this leads us down new paths.

Another key subject is the ecumenical path. These issues were also widely discussed during the course of the pre-Conclave General Congregations. Francis’ decision to appoint eight cardinals as advisors and the issues the group is to address shows the Pope’s willingness to listen and take on board common requests made by the majority of cardinals before the election of the new Pope.
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#32
I bet that the Pope's no-show at the concert was because he was doing last minute planning for this emergency meeting, ie agenda planning, invitation list, etc.

I hope that he does some house cleaning but am not that hopeful.

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#33
An "emergency meeting" does not seem to equate with the reform of the bank or agenda planning for the super Cardinals.  Perhaps we will not know what this is about for a while down the road. 
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(06-26-2013, 08:04 AM)LoyalVIews Wrote:
(06-25-2013, 10:14 PM)Lateran15 Wrote: The CAF thread on this topic had been closed, pending review of TC.

And I believe I got mentioned!  :P

Most Catholic topics get closed on CAF.

All I would do is say a prayer for the Pope and the Cardinals, maybe this will be absolutely groundbreaking.

I see, my bad.

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(06-26-2013, 07:14 AM)Tim Wrote: I trust Voris more than any so called Catholic New Outlet. He isn't blowing smoke, unless the Cardinals' aides are using misdirection, which would be s.o.p. for them.
The time was very late in Roma,so what was the emergency ?  This is the question. The possibilities could be more than our imaginations can dream. Yes, this will be an anxious day. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us.

tim


At this point, with zero mention on the major news outlets, I can't believe Voris has any info whatsoever. Voris is good at stirring the pot and self promotion. I doubt he has "sources" in the Vatican.

We'll see.
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(06-26-2013, 03:34 PM)Whitey Wrote:
(06-26-2013, 07:14 AM)Tim Wrote: I trust Voris more than any so called Catholic New Outlet. He isn't blowing smoke, unless the Cardinals' aides are using misdirection, which would be s.o.p. for them.
The time was very late in Roma,so what was the emergency ?  This is the question. The possibilities could be more than our imaginations can dream. Yes, this will be an anxious day. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us.

tim


At this point, with zero mention on the major news outlets, I can't believe Voris has any info whatsoever. Voris is good at stirring the pot and self promotion. I doubt he has "sources" in the Vatican.

We'll see.

I would be quite surprised if he does not have sources in the Vatican.  How many people work there?  Its almost certain that there are those who share his opinions on the state of the Church and who are willing to speak to him off the record, including clergy.  I have no way of knowing whether his current thoughts are accurate, but it does not seem at all unreasonable to me that he does in fact have such sources. 
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(06-26-2013, 03:34 PM)Whitey Wrote:
(06-26-2013, 07:14 AM)Tim Wrote: I trust Voris more than any so called Catholic New Outlet. He isn't blowing smoke, unless the Cardinals' aides are using misdirection, which would be s.o.p. for them.
The time was very late in Roma,so what was the emergency ?  This is the question. The possibilities could be more than our imaginations can dream. Yes, this will be an anxious day. Our Lady of Fatima pray for us.

tim


At this point, with zero mention on the major news outlets, I can't believe Voris has any info whatsoever. Voris is good at stirring the pot and self promotion. I doubt he has "sources" in the Vatican.

We'll see.

Maybe Voris got too excited when he saw Fr Z  :grin:
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(06-26-2013, 05:07 PM)Sant Anselmo Wrote: I would be quite surprised if he does not have sources in the Vatican.  How many people work there?  Its almost certain that there are those who share his opinions on the state of the Church and who are willing to speak to him off the record, including clergy.  I have no way of knowing whether his current thoughts are accurate, but it does not seem at all unreasonable to me that he does in fact have such sources. 

Archbishop Burke blessing Voris' headquarters 7 or 8 years ago:

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Quote:In addition to radio and television, St. Michael’s Media has produced an apologetics series and a three-part DVD series titled “Where Did The Bible Come From?”—all endorsed by Archbishop Raymond L. Burke of St. Louis.
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#39
With our luck Cardinal Burke will be the only Cardinal removed for blessing Voris's offices  :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Maybe he's going to do the Consecration of Russia, remember Sister Lucia says the Pope will do it but it will be late, well looking at the church today its way late.
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(06-26-2013, 05:37 PM)Kopp Wrote: Archbishop Burke blessing Voris' headquarters 7 or 8 years ago:
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Voris is the real deal. I trust him.
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