Cynical Predictions
The only good thing about the Church getting persecuted we will see who's with the Church really. and the Church usually flourishes during persecution.
(06-26-2013, 04:50 PM)RedCaves Wrote: Wow. That's even more depressing that I thought it'd be. 2017, 2020, 2022 and after sound a bit too cartoonish, in my opinion.

Well, they are cynical predictions, after all.
Been there, done that, heard it already. Some of you may be too young to remember Zager & Evans' 1969 hit, "In The Year 2525." It's worth it to click the link and listen. Here is a 3 minute video with lyrics. It puts to music basically everything that this original post is saying.

With regard to the prediction about the Good Friday Prayer for Jews, Non-Catholics & Pagans:  it is already here and done.
(06-26-2013, 02:44 PM)The_Harlequin_King Wrote:
(06-26-2013, 11:26 AM)RedCaves Wrote: 2018 or 2019- Second American Civil War

Who would fight the federal government?

(06-26-2013, 12:51 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: I think same sex "marriage" will be the law of the land in a year or two without a shred of doubt. Also, rather than American bishops being jailed for teaching the faith i predict that most will scramble to reconcile homosexual marriage with the Catholic faith and will  simply "go along to get along".

Possible, but the trend is in the opposite direction. The US Bishops have been getting more bold and more outspoken. Yes, things are not perfect, but our bishops calling for fast and abstinence every Friday for the intention of marriage is light years ahead of just ten years ago. And Dolan said what he said below, so I would be surprised if the trend suddenly reversed. One thing about the bishops in the time of Henry VIII was that they were already lap-dogs of the government for years. Of course, talk is cheap, so we need to pray for them, and keep our personal witness in tact.

Dolan (my bolding):

“Today is a tragic day for marriage and our nation. The Supreme Court has dealt a profound injustice to the American people by striking down in part the federal Defense of Marriage Act. The Court got it wrong. The federal government ought to respect the truth that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, even where states fail to do so. The preservation of liberty and justice requires that all laws, federal and state, respect the truth, including the truth about marriage. It is also unfortunate that the Court did not take the opportunity to uphold California’s Proposition 8 but instead decided not to rule on the matter. The common good of all, especially our children, depends upon a society that strives to uphold the truth of marriage. Now is the time to redouble our efforts in witness to this truth. These decisions are part of a public debate of great consequence. The future of marriage and the well-being of our society hang in the balance.

“Marriage is the only institution that brings together a man and a woman for life, providing any child who comes from their union with the secure foundation of a mother and a father.

“Our culture has taken for granted for far too long what human nature, experience, common sense, and God’s wise design all confirm: the difference between a man and a woman matters, and the difference between a mom and a dad matters. While the culture has failed in many ways to be marriage-strengthening, this is no reason to give up. Now is the time to strengthen marriage, not redefine it.

“When Jesus taught about the meaning of marriage – the lifelong, exclusive union of husband and wife – he pointed back to “the beginning” of God’s creation of the human person as male and female (see Matthew 19). In the face of the customs and laws of his time, Jesus taught an unpopular truth that everyone could understand. The truth of marriage endures, and we will continue to boldly proclaim it with confidence and charity.

“Now that the Supreme Court has issued its decisions, with renewed purpose we call upon all of our leaders and the people of this good nation to stand steadfastly together in promoting and defending the unique meaning of marriage: one man, one woman, for life. We also ask for prayers as the Court’s decisions are reviewed and their implications further clarified.”

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