Vatican II in error
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I think many "sleepers" were ready to add wording which would after the council be used to ruin the Church. These were not he only "sleepers" back home in their dioceses were many many more. I believe Bella Dodd's testimony which said by 1950 she had placed over a thousand "sleepers" in the Seminaries starting in the 1930's. That would mean many Bishops and their advisors were commies and poised with the masons and modernists to accomplish Gramisci's plan to infiltrate the Church and change it to shell of it's former self.  These were the plotters and schemers, and the rest followed because it appeared to be the new direction and honestly it was new and cool. It is stupefying how a cadre of these similar schemers and malcontents did take control and lead so many by their nose.

There is a salient point contrary to trad belief. Had the Council stuck to the business it would have been successful, and it was well over due.Many a Bishop and priest and sisters needed to remove their size 13 ee from the necks of the pew sitters, but alas that wasn't what happened.

tim
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Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-05-2013, 06:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Beardly - 08-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Maldon - 08-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-05-2013, 07:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-05-2013, 08:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Juanthetuba - 08-05-2013, 09:58 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 12:28 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Sant Anselmo - 08-06-2013, 12:54 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 01:04 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by PurposefulMother - 08-06-2013, 01:51 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:59 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 02:14 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 02:55 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by tradne4163 - 08-06-2013, 04:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 07:48 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by lumine - 08-06-2013, 08:06 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 08:21 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 08:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 09:02 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 09:46 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:20 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 10:22 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by fatiam13 - 08-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:58 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:11 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Miriam_M - 08-06-2013, 11:12 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:15 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Armor of Light - 08-06-2013, 11:31 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:35 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 11:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Militaris Christi - 08-06-2013, 12:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:04 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:37 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:47 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 01:21 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 01:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 03:36 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 04:29 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 04:33 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:19 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 05:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 05:48 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:55 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:59 PM



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