Vatican II in error
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(08-06-2013, 12:37 PM)2Vermont Wrote:
(08-06-2013, 12:32 PM)Melchior Wrote:
(08-06-2013, 11:11 AM)2Vermont Wrote:
(08-06-2013, 11:00 AM)Melchior Wrote: Or; the third secret has been released and the consecration happened.

If this was the case, then why wouldn't we KNOW it?

You mean other than that the Vatican has confirmed the third secret was revealed, and that the consecration happened?

I think what would be a big stumbling block for me in the process of becoming a full-blown trad; too much trust issues.  Can't trust the Vatican, can't trust the Pope, can't trust Bishops, can't trust Priests, can't trust Canon Law.  Can't trust anything, really.  Everything and everyone is out to get the traditionalists, at least that's what it sounds like sometimes.

I actually didn't know that the Vatican confirmed this.  When did this happen?

Besides that, you're right.  I have serious trust issues.  The difference between you and I is that I think there is good reason to have them.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congre...ma_en.html :

Sister Lucia personally confirmed that this solemn and universal act of consecration corresponded to what Our Lady wished (“Sim, està feita, tal como Nossa Senhora a pediu, desde o dia 25 de Março de 1984”: “Yes it has been done just as Our Lady asked, on 25 March 1984”: Letter of 8 November 1989). Hence any further discussion or request is without basis.

In the documentation presented here four other texts have been added to the manuscripts of Sister Lucia: 1) the Holy Father's letter of 19 April 2000 to Sister Lucia; 2) an account of the conversation of 27 April 2000 with Sister Lucia; 3) the statement which the Holy Father appointed Cardinal Angelo Sodano, Secretary of State, to read on 13 May 2000; 4) the theological commentary by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Sister Lucia had already given an indication for interpreting the third part of the “secret” in a letter to the Holy Father, dated 12 May 1982:
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Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-05-2013, 06:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Beardly - 08-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Maldon - 08-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-05-2013, 07:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-05-2013, 08:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Juanthetuba - 08-05-2013, 09:58 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 12:28 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Sant Anselmo - 08-06-2013, 12:54 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 01:04 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by PurposefulMother - 08-06-2013, 01:51 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:59 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 02:14 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 02:55 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by tradne4163 - 08-06-2013, 04:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 07:48 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by lumine - 08-06-2013, 08:06 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 08:21 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 08:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 09:02 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 09:46 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:20 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 10:22 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by fatiam13 - 08-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:58 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:11 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Miriam_M - 08-06-2013, 11:12 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:15 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Armor of Light - 08-06-2013, 11:31 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:35 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 11:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Militaris Christi - 08-06-2013, 12:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:04 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:37 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:47 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 01:21 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 01:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 03:36 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 04:29 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 04:33 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:19 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 05:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 05:48 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:55 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:59 PM



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