Vatican II in error
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Bl. Pope John Paul II never said he had accomplished the Consecration. His very words in the Consecration said Our Lady was still waiting, and he asked her to move the hearts of those that oppose. Those that have said it has been done had no authority to say so. Tarcisio Cardinal Bertone never read the third secret meaning he has plausible deniability, so he's the mouthpiece saying things which others that know the secret, if they said them, would be lieing.

Cardinal Ratzinger's published explanation is a problem. It paints a picture that the vision is the end, but in private conversations he says differently. There are more than a few Cardinals, whose words we have recorded, say the third secret is much more and involves Apostasy starting at the Top.Bl. Pope John Paul II intimated at Fulda that the secret was more like Akita with the world nearly being destroyed.

Without any one like Fr. Gruner or the Dimond brothers, the facts in toto are controversial and contradictory in themselves. What is the real truth ?? I think they are going to let us experience it.

tim
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Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-05-2013, 06:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Beardly - 08-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Maldon - 08-05-2013, 07:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-05-2013, 07:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-05-2013, 08:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Juanthetuba - 08-05-2013, 09:58 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 12:28 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Sant Anselmo - 08-06-2013, 12:54 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 01:04 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by PurposefulMother - 08-06-2013, 01:51 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:59 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 02:14 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 02:55 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by tradne4163 - 08-06-2013, 04:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 07:48 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by lumine - 08-06-2013, 08:06 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 08:21 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 08:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 09:02 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 09:46 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:20 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 10:22 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by fatiam13 - 08-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 10:58 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 11:00 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:11 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Miriam_M - 08-06-2013, 11:12 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:15 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Armor of Light - 08-06-2013, 11:31 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 11:35 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 11:50 AM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Militaris Christi - 08-06-2013, 12:01 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:04 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DeoGratias72 - 08-06-2013, 12:11 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 12:37 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:47 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Basilios - 08-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:54 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by guacamole - 08-06-2013, 12:56 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 01:21 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:32 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 01:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 01:51 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 03:36 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 04:29 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Melchior - 08-06-2013, 04:33 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:19 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by The Tax Collector - 08-06-2013, 05:39 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by DustinsDad - 08-06-2013, 05:48 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:49 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by Tim - 08-06-2013, 05:55 PM
Re: Vatican II in error - by 2Vermont - 08-06-2013, 05:59 PM



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