I'm first finding this: Letter on Novus Ordo Missae
(08-20-2013, 09:07 AM)2Vermont Wrote: I agree with it in matters other than faith and morals.  We know that the Pope can not bind and loose anything he wants.  He can not contradict doctrine.  Even the Pope has limits.  The Mass is the greatest prayer of the Church for hundreds and hundreds of years.  It is not mere Canon Law.  It has more to do with doctrine than discipline (lex orandi, lex credendi).  Pope Paul VI radically changed it.  This is unprecedented.

I found this and thought it was a good explanation of what we are talking about here (and I'm pretty sure these guys are not sedes, so I think it is okay to post):

http://www.traditioninaction.org/Questio...Primum.htm

So you posit that the Form of Mass itself is immutable doctrine and cannot be changed? Does this extend to any liturgical function, like the Divine Office?  Is this extended to the other Rites and Forms (for example; was it lawful for the Seraphic Missal to be suppressed?)
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Re: I'm first finding this: Letter on Novus Ordo Missae - by Melchior - 08-20-2013, 09:15 AM



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