Weightlifting and the cult of the body
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(11-17-2013, 12:18 AM)Skarga Wrote: There is nothing inherently wrong with lifting weights. America is plagued with land whales and bodies moulded by gluttony and sloth. I'd much prefer a society of Greek gods instead of the third circle of hell. Working out is great for your physical and mental well being. It makes you more confident, makes you "feel strong" and powerful, and is great for your health if you don't abuse drugs and eat properly. I've seen it help people with opiate addictions, social anxieties, cancer, and autistic self stimulation.

Quote:those bodybuilders do nothing but stack on lots of useless muscle; they can't do physical labor for crap.

Not true in some cases. Let me quote Arnold:

Quote:The truth is that not all bodybuilders are strong, especially those who have done most of their training with weight machines. But years of power lifting and working with free weights had given me massive biceps and shoulders and back muscles and thighs. I simply looked bigger and stronger than the rest”
- Arnold Schwarzenegger, Total Recall

Quote:American magazines wrote about the split routine as if it were my secret: it became the big thing. Everybody thought that was how I’d grown as much as I had in such a short time ….. From the beginning, I was a believer in the basic movements, because that was Reg Park’s preference. I was doing heavy squats, heavy bench presses, and this provided some of the foundation work of my body, which has always made me appear strong. Certain bodybuilders lack that look. They have good bodies but they don’t appear powerful. The reason is inadequate foundation training. Reg Park had been a powerlifter; he had done squats with 600 pounds, bench presses with 500 pounds and dead lifts of over 700 pounds. I saw no reason why I shouldn’t continue in the same groove.

    - Arnold Schwarzenegger, The Education of a Bodybuilder

Reg Park trained before the inventions of steroids btw.

Body builders like Arnold and Franco Colombo were strong before they became body builders because they were powerlifters. Arnold built muscle mass by getting strong and then later chiseled it down with split routine. Franco could deadlift 755lbs, squat 655lbs, and bench 525lbs.

If your training with machines, using drugs, etc. you're gonna be weak. All that muscle will be white muscle mass. It may look good but it isn't usable. Strength training programs will get you big and strong. A lot of programs now are based off the Texas Method, stuff like Strong Lifts, Starting Strength, and so on.

I should clarify: I'm not saying that lifting weights is useless by itself.  What I am saying is that far too many guys who do lift do it for looks (like idiots who do a bunch of bicep curls to look big but have backs of jelly!), or else don't mix in other things for a mixed workout, mixing calisthenics in is a must, it works the muscles in another way, and helps one master their own bodyweight, stay flexible, etc.  I've done enough work (farming, maintenance) to know that half of being strong is being able to get your body in position to use that strength.  If you can't crawl into a small crevice, etc, your strength isn't going to help.
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Weightlifting and the cult of the body - by Lando - 11-16-2013, 08:08 AM
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