Churchmen applause Skorka's Christ-denying speech → public act of apostasy!
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How can Catholics applause this Christ-denying speech of Skorka? Isn't their applause a public act of apostasy? And who are the others in cassocks?

As St. Thomas says regarding apostasy:
Summa II-II q. 12 a. 1 c. Wrote:Apostasy denotes a backsliding from God. This may happen in various ways according to the different kinds of union between man and God. For, in the first place, man is united to God by faith; secondly, by having his will duly submissive in obeying His commandments; thirdly, by certain special things pertaining to supererogation such as the religious life, the clerical state, or Holy Orders. Now if that which follows be removed, that which precedes, remains, but the converse does not hold. Accordingly a man may apostatize from God, by withdrawing from the religious life to which he was bound by profession, or from the Holy Order which he had received: and this is called "apostasy from religious life" or "Orders." A man may also apostatize from God, by rebelling in his mind against the Divine commandments: and though man may apostatize in both the above ways, he may still remain united to God by faith.

But if he give up the faith, then he seems to turn away from God altogether: and consequently, apostasy simply and absolutely is that whereby a man withdraws from the faith, and is called "apostasy of perfidy." In this way apostasy, simply so called, pertains to unbelief.
Here's Skorka's full speech (if you know Spanish).
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#2
Who's Skorka?
Context?
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(12-29-2013, 04:10 PM)maldon Wrote: Who's Skorka?
Context?
Rabbi Abraham Skorka co-authored a book with and is very close friends of then-Card. Bergoglio.
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#4
NO parishioners will applaud any speech during Mass that is not the homily or part of the Mass.  They don't actually listen.
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There's nothing in what this man says that goes against the Catechism of John Paul II, in fact it's perfectly in line with it. Post Temple Jews are still awaiting the Messiah, Catholics await His second coming. This is in line with post Vatican II theology and the "sure norm" given by the new catechism.
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We're Back on Track.

http://www.harvestingthefruit.com/back-on-track/
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(12-29-2013, 07:13 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: There's nothing in what this man says that goes against the Catechism of John Paul II, in fact it's perfectly in line with it. Post Temple Jews are still awaiting the Messiah, Catholics await His second coming. This is in line with post Vatican II theology and the "sure norm" given by the new catechism.
Skorka said that God has not revealed Himself yet. He publicly denies Christ. Isn't that problematic? And to applaud others for publicly denying Christ is definitely problematic.
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(12-29-2013, 10:10 PM)Geremia Wrote:
(12-29-2013, 07:13 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: There's nothing in what this man says that goes against the Catechism of John Paul II, in fact it's perfectly in line with it. Post Temple Jews are still awaiting the Messiah, Catholics await His second coming. This is in line with post Vatican II theology and the "sure norm" given by the new catechism.
Skorka said that God has not revealed Himself yet. He publicly denies Christ. Isn't that problematic? And to applaud others for publicly denying Christ is definitely problematic.

They are applauding him for denying Christ? You sure about that?
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(12-30-2013, 01:15 PM)triumphguy Wrote: They are applauding him for denying Christ? You sure about that?

Whatever reason they are applauding him, they did, in fact, applaud a man who denies Christ and who is still expecting the Messiah -- one who is not Jesus. That's definitely denying Christ. Maybe they were applauding his outfit or something. But usually when people get applauded after giving a speech, it's the speech that's being applauded.



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So now no Catholic can applaud a Rabbi?

And the video is so heavily edited it's hard to know who is being applauded for what, and in what context.

Any video calling the Pope a freemason is immediately suspect in my opinion.
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