NCRegister attacking Trads
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(01-12-2014, 01:37 PM)Tenmaru Wrote:
(01-12-2014, 01:06 PM)Miriam_M Wrote:
(01-12-2014, 12:57 PM)Tenmaru Wrote:
(01-12-2014, 12:25 PM)Miriam_M Wrote:
(01-12-2014, 11:45 AM)Tenmaru Wrote: What's wrong with that criticism of that particular kind of traddie?

That particularly described kind of traddie may indeed be a white-washed sepulcher.

Overwhelmingly, your (or Longenecker's) "particularly described kind of traddie" is rare if not non-existent. 

As a Traditional Catholic, I wish this were true. But maybe Trad-dom just has a hard time doing self-examination.

I cannot find any support for your position in real life.  The call to holiness is universal.  Trads get that more than any NO-lover I know, most of whom believe it's "not really necessary" to "be too religious."  Jesus, OTOH, was explicit about Being Perfect.

Traditionalism focuses on the 2000 year old tradition of Roman Catholicism, which was not abrogated in 1963.  I've never met a traditionalist who makes a personal claim of superior holiness as an individual, versus any other person, Catholic or not. 

Do we really need to set up these walls like, "no one has made a personal claim of superior holiness as an individual?" I mean, we really must look around, Miriam. Even the attitude in many posts within the FE board show a superior attitude as a group. And we know that the parts make up the whole.

Renewal will only happen when we are honest. It's fine to point out the flaws of the NO church, but the attitude we as a group convey pretty much betrays some implicit claim of superior holiness. Surely you must notice at least an inkling of this?

I deny that traditionalists have a superior attitude, regarding personal holiness, versus any other Catholic -- traditionalist, modernist, whatever.  Show me the posts in which traditionalists claim  --- not that traditionalism is a more reliable path toward holiness (because it is; spirituality is also a 2,000 year old tradition), but that any specific traditionalist, by virtue of such self-identification, is "more holy" than any other person.  I have never seen that.  What I have seen, and what I support, is the accurate observation that a doctrinal position is either authentically Catholic (by category) or it is not.  That has nothing to do with personal holiness, self-examination, etc.  Baptism is a rite of passage and a sacrament.  It does not guarantee fidelity to genuine Roman Catholicism.  it makes it possible, but all that holiness is, is personal work.
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NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:13 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:15 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tim - 01-12-2014, 11:35 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 11:45 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:54 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 12:25 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 12:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Freudentaumel - 01-12-2014, 12:53 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 12:57 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 01:06 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 01:37 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 01:45 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by demoslider - 01-12-2014, 03:02 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 03:28 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 03:32 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 03:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by demoslider - 01-12-2014, 04:47 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by PrairieMom - 01-12-2014, 06:08 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Clare Brigid - 01-12-2014, 06:24 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 10:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by karl - 01-12-2014, 11:20 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Chestertonian - 01-12-2014, 11:42 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by PrairieMom - 01-13-2014, 12:24 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Poche - 01-13-2014, 12:41 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by VoxClamantis - 01-13-2014, 07:31 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-13-2014, 02:26 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-13-2014, 02:57 PM



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