NCRegister attacking Trads
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(01-12-2014, 06:08 PM)PrairieMom Wrote: I find the critisisms of both the trendies and the traddies to be sound. They are the two ends of the spectrum, and both have merit. But I do agree I think that he's referring more to toxic-trads, just like the trendies are more the extremes on that end too.

What I find hardest with this Pope is that while he clearly feels we should be in the middle ground, he provides no "ground" from which to base this on.

Don't want me to "obsess" about abortion? Fine, I can do that. But what does that mean? I shouldn't be a trendie or a traddie? Then that precisely does that mean?

One of the first rules of being a parent is you sometimes need to tell the child what he does need to do vs. what they need to stop doing.

"Pope Frank" tends to be a little light on the details, especially when he's asking us to rethink our disposition. I get a pretty good idea of what he DOESN'T want, but never about what we should be.

This is how I tend to feel too.  I often find myself agreeing with what a lot of what Pope Francis says... I think there are a lot of toxic trads out there that think they have a one-way ticket straight to Heaven simply because they go to a better Mass than everyone else.  I've also met some trads that are some of the most charitable people I've ever met so there is a big range.  But the "neo pelagians" are definitely out there and they need to be knocked off their high horses.  Trouble is these people are often the ones who don't believe Francis is really the pope anyway so who knows how effective this all is.

What I generally find irksome about Pope Francis is he is always saying things that do have a certain truth to them, except he fails to clarify the full truth and so he leaves ambiguity.  It would be nice if he made a distinction between the neo-pelagian crazy toxic trads who want to recreate the 1950's and your average not-nostalgic young trad who was born after Vatican II and just wants to restore all things in Christ.

I'd love to sit down with Pope Francis and talk this over with a cup of yerba mate.
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NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:13 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:15 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tim - 01-12-2014, 11:35 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 11:45 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 11:54 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 12:25 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 12:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Freudentaumel - 01-12-2014, 12:53 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 12:57 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 01:06 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Tenmaru - 01-12-2014, 01:37 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-12-2014, 01:45 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by demoslider - 01-12-2014, 03:02 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 03:28 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 03:32 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by seanipie - 01-12-2014, 03:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by demoslider - 01-12-2014, 04:47 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by PrairieMom - 01-12-2014, 06:08 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Clare Brigid - 01-12-2014, 06:24 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-12-2014, 10:33 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by karl - 01-12-2014, 11:20 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Chestertonian - 01-12-2014, 11:42 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by PrairieMom - 01-13-2014, 12:24 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Poche - 01-13-2014, 12:41 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by VoxClamantis - 01-13-2014, 07:31 AM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by Miriam_M - 01-13-2014, 02:26 PM
Re: NCRegister attacking Trads - by austenbosten - 01-13-2014, 02:57 PM



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