Dialogue Mass: What's the point?
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I've noticed at a few, maybe 3 of the diocesan TLMs offered by diocesan priests the mass offered is a dialogue mass.

The one our family attends sometimes makes one feel that they might as well attend the NO. At least the lay people sound slightly less robotic and fare a bit better in English and the priest's way about him is definitely very much according to the new mass. For example, he definitely is making some sort of connection with the people when he turns and says the "Dominus vobiscum." The SSPX and FSSP priests I have seen always try somehow to ignore us while doing this, by looking down, or closing the eyes.

At the consecration the priest says all the correct words and in Latin and everything but reads it in that narrative style so common at the new mass. In a clear, loud voice he read along, flowing right into "hoc est enim corpus meum" and without prior knowledge you wouldn't know anything of greater importance was being said/taking place until the bells and elevation.

I am very grateful that my first real experiences with the TLM were with the FSSP so I could better learn about the beauty of the priesthood and learn my place as a layman. One of my biggest anxieties before my first TLM was not knowing the responses (I assumed I had to "do" something just as in the new mass) and having to try to follow along an unfamiliar order in Latin while juggling toddlers. If I had started attending a TLM like this dialogue I described I would have kept the same new mass mindset about participation and other concepts. More than halfway through the mass we were handed the "red book" (we weren't saying the parts like everyone else). Although I had very warm feelings towards the kindness of the gesture, the ushers were very kind joyful looking and welcoming people.

I didn't feel like there were any bad intentions about, no intention to sabotage the 1962 liturgy. I would assume new mass Catholics wanting tradition resurrecting the liturgy but going about it according to their post-conciliar upbringing. This is what I would have done if not for my encounter with the FSSP. However, It seems like these very Novus Ordo-ized liturgies are a somewhat false representation and an UNDER-representation of what the traditional mass is.

Anyone else with thoughts and experiences on this?
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Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by FaithandLove - 02-10-2014, 06:52 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-10-2014, 08:40 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-10-2014, 10:44 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-14-2014, 05:01 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by AxxeArp - 02-14-2014, 06:48 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-14-2014, 08:41 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-15-2014, 08:56 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-15-2014, 11:33 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Gidge - 02-15-2014, 10:19 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-16-2014, 11:51 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-16-2014, 08:46 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-17-2014, 08:03 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-17-2014, 08:45 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-20-2014, 07:45 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-20-2014, 05:44 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-23-2014, 08:44 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Gidge - 02-24-2014, 07:27 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-25-2014, 07:39 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-26-2014, 08:54 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by SCG - 03-04-2014, 09:51 AM



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