Dialogue Mass: What's the point?
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(02-14-2014, 11:53 PM)2HearsServant Wrote: I think this goes to show that just because we have the traditional liturgy, doesn't mean that we have the traditional mindset.  We have been blessed, in my area, to have a diocesan priest say the traditional Mass three times a week.  Some of those who assist at these Masses are friendly to Tradition, and some come just because they come to everything at the church...and so there are people fumbling through prayer books, incessantly trying to "keep up" with father, have conversations before and after Mass, dress inappropriately, the same things you would see at a modern Mass.  There's even a lay woman who rushes the sanctuary as soon as Mass is over to blow out the candles.  Yes, it's wonderful that there is the traditional liturgy, but that doesn't mean that there is the traditional understanding or catechises.  And so, I think that those who obsess at dialogue Masses about staying "on top of things" and always saying their part, speaking loudly, etc., may not understand that this is not necessary; it's possibly just a carry over from the customs and practices of the new Mass.  In the past, I never understood why SSPX priests discouraged parishioners from assisting at diocesan approved traditional Masses, but this kind of "cross contamination" that occurs when the priest and the faithful are formed around the new liturgy is an understandable reason. 

It is an understandable reason. I think it really explains the lack of improvement or interest where TLM is offered. As I said before it helped me understand why some who had supposedly grown up with tradition dont get tradition. When I went to one friends old parish all other sacraments like confession were  the new rite and of course the sermons...
However we have seen diocesan TLMs doing very well and one can see the priest has deep traditional convictions.

What can be done in the diocese where it is felt that tradition was thrown a bone because technically they have an approved TLM location but besides a sort of facade of having 1962 missals the attitudes of both priest and laity and everything else are according to the new mass?
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Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-10-2014, 08:40 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-10-2014, 10:44 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-14-2014, 05:01 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by AxxeArp - 02-14-2014, 06:48 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-14-2014, 08:41 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-15-2014, 08:56 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-15-2014, 11:33 AM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by FaithandLove - 02-15-2014, 06:33 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Gidge - 02-15-2014, 10:19 PM
Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-16-2014, 11:51 AM
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Re: Dialogue Mass: What's the point? - by Tim - 02-20-2014, 07:45 AM
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