The Experiences of Homosexual Trads
(02-27-2014, 12:46 PM)Heorot Wrote: It's really sad that we must see the Novus Ordo as the "welcoming", or even "pro-gay" Catholics, and the Trads as the "rejecting" and "anti-gay" Catholics. There's a strange dichotomy to what should just be unified Catholicism. I myself would not recommend going to a NO, because the theology behind that Mass, and the attitudes that have been formed around the whole procedure, have become liberal. Of course, I've never been to what I'd consider a reverent NO Mass, so perhaps I am not really one to speak here.

It's beyond "really sad"; it's a travesty that undoubtedly wounds His Sacred Heart. Authentic Catholicism -- i.e., traditional Catholicism -- is meant for everyone. I want your perception of the NO as being "welcoming" and Trads as "rejecting" to change -- without falling into the trap of altering Church teaching one wit, of condoning sin, etc.

(02-27-2014, 12:46 PM)Heorot Wrote: As for witnessing to trads, it is a good idea. Most of them would probably find the openness repugnant, however: "why should you even tell us that?" and "we don't want to know, okay?". It really is a private struggle, like those who struggle with porn or impurity or shoplifting. We don't need to say "I'm gay", just "I'm a sinner and I'm Catholic, thanks be to God". This is for trads as well as novus ordo! I don't understand people very well, though...

loggats, thank you for the charitable and patient feedback as well. I get what you're talking about.

I'm with Loggat on his take on all this (see his and my posts above). People need to be taught. They need to develop humility. They need to learn to love others.


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Re: The Experiences of Homosexual Trads - by VoxClamantis - 02-27-2014, 08:54 PM

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