Rorate Caeli: Many FI priests petitioning to be relieved of pontifical vows
(05-15-2014, 05:55 PM)austenbosten Wrote:
(05-15-2014, 11:59 AM)SouthpawLink Wrote: Is it now acceptable on this forum to call the Sovereign Pontiff a heretic?  Must we continue to "wait and see," or are we to call "black" that which is clearly white?  I'm not looking to be provocative, but I just glanced at the forum rules again and they remain the same as they've always been.

It's always acceptable to call a heretic for who he is, including the Holy Father, but one must have sufficient evidence to declare him such.

Being a lousy pope is not grounds for declaring him a heretic.

Only a future Pontiff may judge a predecessor of heresy. I do not intend to judge the Holy Father and call him heretic, and I do not claim to have the authority to do so. However, the following, taken at face value does seem 'heretical', according to my meagre and defective intellect:

We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked. (Evangelii Gaudium #247)

Now, I do not know what the Pope meant by this. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. The comment is ambiguous. I will assume it is not 'outright formal heresy', if such a thing exists, I don't understand the proper criteria.

This is what the Church teaches, and this teaching is infallible, I believe:

“It [The Holy Roman Church] firmly believes, professes and teaches that the legal prescriptions of the old Testament or the Mosaic law, which are divided into ceremonies, holy sacrifices and sacraments, because they were instituted to signify something in the future, although they were adequate for the divine cult of that age, once our lord Jesus Christ who was signified by them had come, came to an end and the sacraments of the new Testament had their beginning.” - Council of Florence

I am not sure to what extent, if any, there is a contradiction with what the Pope said in EG and previous infallible teaching.

I'll leave it up to you.

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Re: Rorate Caeli: Many FI priests petitioning to be relieved of pontifical vows - by Miles Immaculatae - 05-15-2014, 06:13 PM

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