fasting before Mass
#11
There is no virtue in grouchiness. The Lord loves a cheerful giver.... that goes for everything we give.
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#12
(05-18-2014, 03:41 PM)Miles Immaculatae Wrote: Tenderly and diplomatic tell your husband that it is improper for Christians to undertake mortifications that mortify other people, i.e. yourself. If your husband is irksome beyond your endurance, then there is no virtue in his fasting, which is well beyond the expected norm.

In the past, when Catholics were expected to fast from midnight, they usually attended Sunday Mass very early on in the morning. Remember, the afternoon and evening Mass are relatively new. In olden times people would have gone to mass at 6am, 7am, 8am.

Your husband is most probably misinformed. The previous rule was not 'from midnight', this is a very old practice indeed, and although venerable, it was replaced by three hours a long time ago. Three hours was the norm before the council. Three hours. I recommend your husband have breakfast early in the morning. This way he can observe a more stricter fast than one hour, and not be a little monster on the way home.

In practice, before the three hour rule was introduced, many people simply just did not receive Holy Communion. This was bad. The reason why the Church relaxed the rule was a mercy, for our benefit, to encourage frequent Communions. Although the one hour practice seems a bit lax.

I know the Eastern Church is proud of her ancient midnight rule. But is this necessarily the most conducive practice for the sanctification of souls? Perhaps not, which is why it has been made voluntary.

This is about the best advice you can ask for.
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#13
A quote like the following can be easily abused, but I thik it might be helpful here:

"If you cause yourself distress in order to serve God, then you are indeed distressing yourself, but not for God."

--St. Vincent de Paul, Letter 36 to St. Louise de Marrilac
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#14
Does he eat anything after dinner on Saturday? Perhaps he could try a late snack on Saturday night if he wants to keep up the practice. If he really becomes a grouch doing this and otherwise is pleasant, maybe he should check with a doctor to make sure his blood sugar is OK. Though I know it can be rough with little ones, an earlier Mass is a good suggestion.
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(05-21-2014, 09:34 AM)Miles Immaculatae Wrote:
(05-20-2014, 09:07 PM)Silouan Wrote:
(05-18-2014, 03:16 PM)JubilateDeo83 Wrote: I know that the only strict requirement right now is the 1 hour before Mass rule.  My husband likes to fast from Midnight the night before, and the Mass we tend to attend is at 11am.  We feed our daughter a bowl of Cheerios before Mass because she is only 5 and usually by the time we get to the church she wants to eat AGAIN....

Mass is usually over at around 1pm, so by that time my husband hasn't had anything to eat and he's just ravenous.  his mood gets worse and worse ad the morning goes on.  We'll sometimes go out to eat with friends from Church, or we'll drive home and he'll complain that lunch isn't ready soon enough.  He's always snapping at me but Sundays it's worse than usual.  Half the time, we'll get into arguments in the car because he's aggravated by something I did, or by our daughter.  It really bothers me because we've just received the Body and Blood of Our Lord and here we are, having an argument in the car---which is so harmful for children to grow up with.  I don't want my children to grow up dreading Sundays because their father is such a grumpypuss and everyone is really touchy.

Should I suggest we start eating breakfast in the morning?  Should I just offer it up and hope that our kids aren't messed up and associate church with their father's irritability?  How should I approach him about this delicately? 


Unless he has some kind of condition that requires him to eat more frequently I'd tell him to man up and stop complaining. Seriously.........going without food for part of one day.......grow up and stop whining.

Blood sugar levels affect mood.


So what? Suck it up and deal with it.
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(05-22-2014, 07:26 PM)Silouan Wrote:
(05-21-2014, 09:34 AM)Miles Immaculatae Wrote:
(05-20-2014, 09:07 PM)Silouan Wrote:
(05-18-2014, 03:16 PM)JubilateDeo83 Wrote: I know that the only strict requirement right now is the 1 hour before Mass rule.  My husband likes to fast from Midnight the night before, and the Mass we tend to attend is at 11am.  We feed our daughter a bowl of Cheerios before Mass because she is only 5 and usually by the time we get to the church she wants to eat AGAIN....

Mass is usually over at around 1pm, so by that time my husband hasn't had anything to eat and he's just ravenous.  his mood gets worse and worse ad the morning goes on.  We'll sometimes go out to eat with friends from Church, or we'll drive home and he'll complain that lunch isn't ready soon enough.  He's always snapping at me but Sundays it's worse than usual.  Half the time, we'll get into arguments in the car because he's aggravated by something I did, or by our daughter.  It really bothers me because we've just received the Body and Blood of Our Lord and here we are, having an argument in the car---which is so harmful for children to grow up with.  I don't want my children to grow up dreading Sundays because their father is such a grumpypuss and everyone is really touchy.

Should I suggest we start eating breakfast in the morning?  Should I just offer it up and hope that our kids aren't messed up and associate church with their father's irritability?  How should I approach him about this delicately? 


Unless he has some kind of condition that requires him to eat more frequently I'd tell him to man up and stop complaining. Seriously.........going without food for part of one day.......grow up and stop whining.

Blood sugar levels affect mood.


So what? Suck it up and deal with it.

You're being unreasonable.
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#17
(05-22-2014, 08:13 PM)Miles Immaculatae Wrote:
(05-22-2014, 07:26 PM)Silouan Wrote:
(05-21-2014, 09:34 AM)Miles Immaculatae Wrote:
(05-20-2014, 09:07 PM)Silouan Wrote:
(05-18-2014, 03:16 PM)JubilateDeo83 Wrote: I know that the only strict requirement right now is the 1 hour before Mass rule.  My husband likes to fast from Midnight the night before, and the Mass we tend to attend is at 11am.  We feed our daughter a bowl of Cheerios before Mass because she is only 5 and usually by the time we get to the church she wants to eat AGAIN....

Mass is usually over at around 1pm, so by that time my husband hasn't had anything to eat and he's just ravenous.  his mood gets worse and worse ad the morning goes on.  We'll sometimes go out to eat with friends from Church, or we'll drive home and he'll complain that lunch isn't ready soon enough.  He's always snapping at me but Sundays it's worse than usual.  Half the time, we'll get into arguments in the car because he's aggravated by something I did, or by our daughter.  It really bothers me because we've just received the Body and Blood of Our Lord and here we are, having an argument in the car---which is so harmful for children to grow up with.  I don't want my children to grow up dreading Sundays because their father is such a grumpypuss and everyone is really touchy.

Should I suggest we start eating breakfast in the morning?  Should I just offer it up and hope that our kids aren't messed up and associate church with their father's irritability?  How should I approach him about this delicately? 


Unless he has some kind of condition that requires him to eat more frequently I'd tell him to man up and stop complaining. Seriously.........going without food for part of one day.......grow up and stop whining.

Blood sugar levels affect mood.


So what? Suck it up and deal with it.

You're being unreasonable.


Telling a person who has to go a few hours without eating to act like a grown up is not being unreasonable. He won't starve, I promise. Unless there is some underlying medical condition there is no reason an adult can't go a few hours without eating and not treat his loved ones like crap.
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