Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi
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(06-23-2014, 01:59 PM)Deidre Wrote:
(06-23-2014, 01:01 PM)J Michael Wrote:
(06-23-2014, 09:11 AM)Deidre Wrote: Somehow, I don't think that they've been formally excommunicated.  ???

Why not?

Because formal excommunication (latae ferendae) requires that the guilty party be warned of the seriousness of his crime, including the fact that he can be excommunicated for it, and be given the chance to repent. Then, if the criminal doesn't repent, there's a trial and the sentence is formally imposed, with written notification being sent to the criminal himself and his diocese. It's not something that the Pope imposes in "off-the-cuff comments" before an audience of pilgrims. Given the Pope's other remarks that were quoted, it seems asthough he was using "excommunicated" to illustrate a point, rather than in its formal, legal sense.

Source: The Catholic Encyclopedia

In the new canon law, if I'm not mistaken, there are excommunications latae setentiae, that is, made by the force of the act themselves and not by an action of the bishop. I believe the only requirement is that the sinner knows it is an act that causes by its very force excommunication, and this (inform them) everyone can do.

Also, from the text of the talk I think if the Pope was not issuing a sentence he was at least playing with the etymology of excommunication.

By the way, if the Pope comes to your city and says that a very specific group you are part of is excommunicated, wouldn't you worry, relying just on some technicality?
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Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by VoxClamantis - 06-22-2014, 08:25 AM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by PolishTrad - 06-22-2014, 08:27 AM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Zea mays - 06-22-2014, 10:15 AM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by McNider - 06-22-2014, 11:03 AM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by SCG - 06-22-2014, 01:35 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by NorthernTrad - 06-22-2014, 09:34 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by AllSeasons - 06-22-2014, 10:16 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Poche - 06-22-2014, 11:40 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Deidre - 06-23-2014, 09:11 AM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 01:01 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Deidre - 06-23-2014, 01:59 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by J Michael - 06-23-2014, 02:18 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Renatus Frater - 06-23-2014, 02:39 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Deidre - 06-23-2014, 03:36 PM
Re: Pope Excommunicates Mafiosi - by Cyriacus - 06-23-2014, 07:18 PM



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