On Francis: "They say he’s being unclear, but we know exactly what he means.”
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(07-15-2014, 01:20 PM)FatherCekada Wrote:
(07-15-2014, 08:22 AM)Heorot Wrote: One of the goals of anarchist Communism in the old days (19th century) was to create chaos. They were never happy when society was in order. Even motions that would aid the proletariat - such as the liberation of serfs in Russia - caused consternation to the Communists. Actions that seemed to further their goals were rejected. There always had to be a crisis, even if they had to manufacture it themselves with bombs and knives. Most people cannot rest during a crisis, and cannot trust God or love one another in peace. They demand 'reform' and 'change', because of the endless change that spurs them on.

Francis is not going around bombing or stabbing people, but he is creating an atmosphere of perpetual uncertainty. I find this very galling...

Francis did, in fact, famously tell young people in Brazil to make a "mess" (lío) during World Youth Day last year.

The sede Novus Ordo Watch site's nickname for Francis -- "Chaos Frank" -- might have seemed a little flip at first, but no more.
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Chaos is indeed a favorite tool of revolutionaries.
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And Old Scratch. 
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(07-14-2014, 10:51 AM)J Michael Wrote:
(07-14-2014, 10:39 AM)maldon Wrote: So what does he mean?

As it stands, the statement is as unclear as a Pope Francis declaration.

Confusion begets more confusion, eh? :grin: :O

You got it right, what he means to communicate is CONFUSION - that is his strategy for the Church to navigate during this time of confrontation with the modern world.

He doesn't have a clear idea on what the Church should do:
-St Pius X for example was clear, the Church needs to hold firm and condemn the modern world
-Paul VI thought the Church should make accommodations

This pope is more of a Paul VI type.
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