More Evidence of Vatican dislike of Tradition:Booming Paraguay diocese under gun
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(07-14-2014, 08:22 PM)Pacman Wrote: Do you think Pope Francis has any clue about the total failure of the mass of Paul VI to reinvigorate the Church?
Yes, I think he does.
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(07-15-2014, 01:35 AM)Juanthetuba Wrote: Pretty dishonest Blogpost, my understanding is that the visitation has to do with the fact that this Diocese incardinated and allowed Fr. Urrutigoity to become it's Vicar General. A diocese and a Bishop who allows a blunder this big to happen surely needs to be investigate, no matter how traditional or not it is, I'm sure even the SSPX would agree with this action.

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pap...an-diocese

To be fair, there were never any proven charges against Fr. Urrutigoity, so we have to extend to him innocence.... until PROVEN guilty.. and I suppose Canon law has a similar provision, provided scandal isn't caused, which is what happened when the media reported on him being in Paraguay.
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(07-16-2014, 02:22 PM)winoblue1 Wrote:
(07-15-2014, 01:35 AM)Juanthetuba Wrote: Pretty dishonest Blogpost, my understanding is that the visitation has to do with the fact that this Diocese incardinated and allowed Fr. Urrutigoity to become it's Vicar General. A diocese and a Bishop who allows a blunder this big to happen surely needs to be investigate, no matter how traditional or not it is, I'm sure even the SSPX would agree with this action.

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pap...an-diocese

To be fair, there were never any proven charges against Fr. Urrutigoity, so we have to extend to him innocence.... until PROVEN guilty.. and I suppose Canon law has a similar provision, provided scandal isn't caused, which is what happened when the media reported on him being in Paraguay.

That's true, though I suppose the scandal it would should still have been enough reason to delay or forgo the appointment in the first place.
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#14
I never knew that the Latin Mass was soo widespread in a diocese, is it really that widespread? How many Latin Masses?
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#15
Speaking of sex abuse...
The Vatican has organized an investigation of a diocese in Paraguay where the vicar general is a priest who was accused of sexual abuse while serving in the US.

Father Carlos Urrutigoity, was forced to leave a private school in the Diocese of Scranton, Pennsylvania, in 2002 after reports of sexual abuse there. The Scranton diocese now identifies the Argentine-born priest as a “serious threat to young people.”

Nevertheless, after moving to Paraguay, Father Urrutigoity has been named vicar general by Bishop Rogelio Livieres Plano of the Diocese of Cuidad del Este. The bishop has rejected calls for Urrutigoity’s removal.

This week Archbishop Eliseo Ariotti, the apostolic nuncio in Paraguay, announced that Vatican investigators would visit the Cuidad del Este diocese later this month “to find out some things.” According to the newspaper Ultima Hora, the investigating team will be led by Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello, the archpriest of the basilica of St. Mary Major in Rome, and will include Bishop Milton Troccoli, an auxiliary of the Montevideo, Uruguay archdiocese.

conference Wednesday in the South American country’s capital of Asuncion, local media reported. News reports quoted him as saying it would be “a pastoral visit to find out some things.”

Paraguay’s Ultima Hora newspaper described one of the envoys being sent to Paraguay, Cardinal Santos Abril y Castello, as a “strong man of the Vatican.” It said the other will be Bishop Milton Troccoli, the auxiliary bishop of Montevideo, Uruguay.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/head...ryid=21930
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(07-15-2014, 01:35 AM)Juanthetuba Wrote: Pretty dishonest Blogpost, my understanding is that the visitation has to do with the fact that this Diocese incardinated and allowed Fr. Urrutigoity to become it's Vicar General. A diocese and a Bishop who allows a blunder this big to happen surely needs to be investigate, no matter how traditional or not it is, I'm sure even the SSPX would agree with this action.

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/pap...an-diocese

The SSPX sacked Urrutigoity a long time ago, I cannot fathom why he has survived elsewhere. Bishop Fellay warned the Scranton diocese about him but that seems to have been discounted:

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/...n-paraguay

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#17
So following the Vatican's investigation, Urrutigoity has been fired as Vicar General. The bishop of Ciudad del Este is also suspended from performing ordinations for the time being.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/repor...se-n167331
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This is an example of fallout of priest abuse of minors. The visitation was conducted because a priest who left the United States under a cloud of abuse accustations was able convince a bishop of Paraguay to take him into his diocese. He not nly took him into his iocese he made him the vicar. Why are we surprised that the Vatican is responding? 
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Here is a video of the visitation

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(07-14-2014, 08:22 PM)Pacman Wrote: Do you think Pope Francis has any clue about the total failure of the mass of Paul VI to reinvigorate the Church?

A little noticed quote of Pope Francis in response to a question on the Orthodox Liturgy: "So beautiful. We [i.e., the Latin Christians] have lost a bit the sense of adoration, they conserve it, they praise God, they adore God, they sing, time does not count. The center is God and that is a richness that I would like to emphasize on this occasion as you ask me this question."

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/201...enter.html

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