How does a Catholic react to Gay Pride Week?
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(07-29-2014, 03:07 AM)Pacman Wrote: Liberal Catholics will try to argue that the scriptural prohibition on sodomy from Genesis is actually a story about the value of hospitality. This is quite an asinine argument because Sodom and Gomorha is referred to in Jude 1:7 where it is made explicit that this is about sexual immorality.

To play devil's advocate, one might also argue that the problem with Sodom was rape, not other kinds of perversion.
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(07-29-2014, 03:17 AM)Dirigible Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 03:07 AM)Pacman Wrote: Liberal Catholics will try to argue that the scriptural prohibition on sodomy from Genesis is actually a story about the value of hospitality. This is quite an asinine argument because Sodom and Gomorha is referred to in Jude 1:7 where it is made explicit that this is about sexual immorality.

To play devil's advocate, one might also argue that the problem with Sodom was rape, not other kinds of perversion.

Where one is present, there's bound to be others.  It's an "atmosphere" when it's more than one, which was clearly this city's case.
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(07-29-2014, 03:53 AM)LoneWolfRadTrad Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 03:17 AM)Dirigible Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 03:07 AM)Pacman Wrote: Liberal Catholics will try to argue that the scriptural prohibition on sodomy from Genesis is actually a story about the value of hospitality. This is quite an asinine argument because Sodom and Gomorha is referred to in Jude 1:7 where it is made explicit that this is about sexual immorality.

To play devil's advocate, one might also argue that the problem with Sodom was rape, not other kinds of perversion.

This is true. When there is a culture of fulfilling sexual desires in general, all kinds of perversions follow. We see this clearly today.
Where one is present, there's bound to be others.  It's an "atmosphere" when it's more than one, which was clearly this city's case.
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#44
I recall thngs were so bad in Sodom that the natives demanded to 'know' newcomers to the city.

Given the way our sex-obsessed culture is going, does anyone think that day is too far off from the here and now?

The current sign: naked guys walking around that beacon of progression, San Franciso. (Named for St. Francis, who must be hopping up and down in Heaven).

Oh, and I just remembered: rape is a joke word, these days, in Universities, I hear.
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#45
(07-29-2014, 04:09 PM)Layman Wrote: I recall thngs were so bad in Sodom that the natives demanded to 'know' newcomers to the city.

Wow.  Dude, how old are you?  :O
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(07-29-2014, 05:32 PM)Clare Brigid Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 04:09 PM)Layman Wrote: I recall thngs were so bad in Sodom that the natives demanded to 'know' newcomers to the city.

Wow.  Dude, how old are you?  :O

Woo wee. Haven't bothered to read this entire thread, but this response is so funny, it may be a venial sin.

How does a Catholic respond to Gay Pride Week? Hmm...What do you usually do during the week? Oh, that?--Okay: keep it up, unless you kill kittens, text and drive, splint infinitives, or tear Do Not Remove tags off of mattresses.
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#47
(07-29-2014, 03:17 AM)Dirigible Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 03:07 AM)Pacman Wrote: Liberal Catholics will try to argue that the scriptural prohibition on sodomy from Genesis is actually a story about the value of hospitality. This is quite an asinine argument because Sodom and Gomorha is referred to in Jude 1:7 where it is made explicit that this is about sexual immorality.

To play devil's advocate, one might also argue that the problem with Sodom was rape, not other kinds of perversion.

The problem is everything regarding to "sodomy" and the sins of Sodom, when one does a simple lookup in the etymology of the word. It has always meant until now, that "sodomy" was homosexual rape.

Not to mention, Lot offered up both his young virgin daughters....now if it was just rape...then surely the town would have had there way with Lot's daughters...the town refused because they wanted the two male angels...not the two young daughters.
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(07-29-2014, 05:32 PM)Clare Brigid Wrote:
(07-29-2014, 04:09 PM)Layman Wrote: I recall thngs were so bad in Sodom that the natives demanded to 'know' newcomers to the city.

Wow.  Dude, how old are you?  :O

I don't understand your remark.

Genesis 19

Quote:[1] And the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of the city. And seeing them, he rose up and went to meet them: and worshipped prostrate to the ground, [2] And said: I beseech you, my lords, turn in to the house of your servant, and lodge there: wash your feet, and in the morning you shall go on your way. And they said: No, but we will abide in the street. [3] He pressed them very much to turn in unto him: and when they were come into his house, he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread and they ate: [4] But before they went to bed, the men of the city beset the house both young and old, all the people together. [5] And they called Lot, and said to him: Where are the men that came in to thee at night? bring them out hither that we may know them:

[6] Lot went out to them, and shut the door after him, and said: [7] Do not so, I beseech you, my brethren, do not commit this evil. [8] I have two daughters who as yet have not known man: I will bring them out to you, and abuse you them as it shall please you, so that you do no evil to these men, because they are come in under the shadow of my roof. [9] But they said: Get thee back thither. And again: Thou camest in, said they, as a, stranger, was it to be a judge? therefore we will afflict thee more than them. And they pressed very violently upon Lot: and they were even at the point of breaking open the doors. [10] And behold the men put out their hand, and drew in Lot unto them, and shut the door:
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#49
(07-29-2014, 07:11 PM)austenbosten Wrote: The problem is everything regarding to "sodomy" and the sins of Sodom, when one does a simple lookup in the etymology of the word. It has always meant until now, that "sodomy" was homosexual rape.

I've never heard the word "sodomy" used to refer to homosexual rape.  I mean, a person could be forcibly sodomized, but engaging in sodomy can be consensual (and likely usually is).
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