No Christians Were Beheaded
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So, according to these Protestants, Christians weren't beheaded by Muslim jihadists. They were Coptics, not real Christians at all, see.




Twenty-one Egyptians who were being held by Islamic extremists were executed yesterday. They were decapitated. They were killed because they were not Muslims and because that’s what the extremists do…they kill people, savagely, brutally, horribly, sinfully.

Regardless of the religion of those twenty-one people, the world should be outraged. The western world should be horrified. Americans should be disgusted. American evangelicals should be saddened and brought to our knees in sorrow and prayer. We should be brought to our knees in sorrow and prayer not because the Coptic Christians – as they’ve come to be known – are Christians who share our saving faith in Jesus. Coptic Christians (by their confession) do not share our saving faith in Jesus. That should make no difference to the sadness of this tragedy…except, perhaps, make it sadder and even more tragic.

Southern Baptist and evangelical leaders were stumbling over themselves yesterday in a race to demonstrate who was the most sympathetic to our fellow Christians and these brave martyrs for the faith.

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Do Southern Baptist leaders and other evangelicals really not know what a Christian is or how you become one? Is it being born into an ethnic group that denies the dual-nature of Christ in his full deity and humanity? Is it embracing a meritorious, works-based salvation nearly identical to that of the Roman Catholic church? Is it in aggressively denying salvation by a personal, saving relationship with Jesus Christ? We ask because that’s what Coptic ‘Christians’ believe. This really isn’t new, and we have to wonder why our leaders don’t know what Coptics believe and if they do, what on Earth makes them think they should be categorized as Christians.

Now, sure. In the broadest possible (and most inaccurate) sense possible, the term Christian is applied to the Coptics for the
same reason it is applied to Roman Catholics by major media. To secularists, all one has to be to be considered Christian is to call themselves one. In this same sense, the press refers to cultists like the LDS and Jehovah’s Witnesses as Christians as well. There should be no outrage that the press calls them such, or even their outrage representative to evangelicals, Todd Starnes. We get it; they don’t get it. But why again do our Southern Baptist leaders not grasp that?

Maybe it’s one of those “Today we are all Republicans” type things – the expression used by Ronald Reagan’s surgeon the day he was shot – and often used to express solidarity to those suffering. A few weeks ago we are all Charlie Hebdo. So maybe what they mean is, “Today, we are all Coptics.” I think we’re fine with that, in a way. But that’s a far cry from saying, “Today, Coptics are Christians.”

Now is not the time to discuss doctrinal differences! We can hear that echoed now. How dare you, in a time of tragedy!

Frankly, now is not the time to confuse for the entire blooming world what it means to be a Christian. We cannot consider the Coptics an unreached people group by the IMB one day and then call them Christian martyrs the next. Why anyone should have to point this out to our SBC president is beyond me.

What’s at stake, you see, is the Gospel. May God forbid our (good and honorable) desire to show sympathy for temporal suffering lead us to say careless words that might lead to eternal suffering. The Coptics, by their confession, believe in salvation-by-works. They need to be evangelized, and they need to come to Christ.

Please love the group known as ‘Coptic Christians.’ Please pray for them.



[UPDATE 4:25 CST]

This post has received negative feedback from a number of blogs. Here are our thoughts.

Most criticism has come from one of three directions. From the first direction, a certain segment of high-church sacramentalists who also would criticize us for believing that Roman Catholics are not – if they hold to their confessions – Christian. There’s little we can do about that criticism. We do not believe that baptized equals saved. Like most Protestants still holding to our confessions, we recognize those whose confessions negate a grace-alone, faith-alone, Christ-alone salvation as unbelievers. And so…here, we stand.

Vox Wrote:There's more craziness at the link. 

I wonder how many times a Catholic has to say that we don't believe in salvation by works. Or by faith alone, as most Protestants claim to, with "sola fide" being one of the two pillars of the "Reformation." ]We believe in salvation by GRACE ALONE. Basically, these people are calling us liars all the time. Sorta ticks me off.

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Oh good grief. Stupid useless morons. Have your say, but don't come crying to us then when they're standing at your doorstep with a knife. We warned you.
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This is why I don't ask the waitress at Denny's for wine pairings.
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The protties have to keep flogging that dead horse in order to justify their existence. They have to wrap themselves with Luther, Calvin, Zwinglii et al. They know in their gut that to acknowledge the true Apostolic Faith, they commit suicide to their pretend faith. That is why all this fake ecumenism is a joke. You want ecumenism?  Preach the Faith, whole and unadulterated.
As to these 21 martyrs for Christ,
Eternal Rest Grant them Oh Lord. May perpetual Light Shine Upon Them. May They Rest In Peace.
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It's just sad really, I mean, Copts have held onto the same faith they were given for literally over a thousand years before any form of Protestantism was even a thought in the mind of some heretic.  To claim that the Copts are not Christians betrays a level of ignorance of history that just beggars the imagination. I'm speechless but not surprised.
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You have to keep maintaining your error if your a Prot/Muslim/Jew etc because to do otherwise would be essentially admitting that you've been stupid for 500/1400/2000 years and your pride won't let you do that. 
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(02-28-2015, 12:48 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: It's just sad really, I mean, Copts have held onto the same faith they were given for literally over a thousand years before any form of Protestantism was even a thought in the mind of some heretic.  To claim that the Copts are not Christians betrays a level of ignorance of history that just beggars the imagination. I'm speechless but not surprised.

And they held on to that same faith under severe persecution from the Muslims for 900 of those years before Protestantism even appeared. Give me the Coptic Orthodox over the SBC any time!
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I can't use the words I'm thinking...........
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There is a reason that I call these Protestants as Pottystants.

N.
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(02-28-2015, 12:48 PM)formerbuddhist Wrote: It's just sad really, I mean, Copts have held onto the same faith they were given for literally over a thousand years before any form of Protestantism was even a thought in the mind of some heretic.  To claim that the Copts are not Christians betrays a level of ignorance of history that just beggars the imagination. I'm speechless but not surprised.

Their explanation is the great apostasy.
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