NYC St. Patricks Parade
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(03-21-2015, 12:58 PM)missadeangelis Wrote:
Quote:The problem I have with this approach is that many Catholics and/or non-Catholics don't even know what is going on in the Vatican or what Pope Francis is saying day in and day out (hell, I don't even know most of the time), at-least not the everyday people that I speak to. Now if they see Catholics revealing all of Pope Francis faults and criticizing him at every turn, just like it is a free for all, then I think it creates a bad image of the Papacy in the minds of believers and unbelievers, including the Church in general (is the Church really a free for all?). I think Catholics need to start weighing their priorities and asking themselves just what they are trying to accomplish when they speak or criticize the Pope. Your not going to convince people that the Pope is infallible in official decrees (ex-cathedra) and that he is the Vicar of Christ with universal jurisdiction over the entire Christian Church when you are constantly upbraiding him in front of everyone. Now if you (Catholics) do not respect the Holy Father and at-least treat him like a real Father then no one else will and consequently they will not obey the Church unto salvation. Perhaps it is better to be silent and to discuss things more on an individual basis when people have concerns about what Pope Francis says or does.

I will give a personal example of a time that I should have been silent but opened my big mouth. Once I criticized JP2 for kissing the Qur'an in front of a Catholic who has been Catholic for about 50 years and they did not even know it; I think revealing this fault of JP2's scandalized this person and they would have been better for not knowing it. So I had to take a step back and ask, to what end do I do this?

Now if scandals must arise then so be but at the same time so many scandals arise because people will not stop acting like it is a free for all. I don't think every comment from Francis needs to be criticized. These things will pass away and no one will remember them anyhow, however when Catholics make a big deal about every little thing that he says or does then they are keeping those things alive for everyone to remember. In fact, I heard about JP2 kissing the Qur'an from Sedevacantist first, to me it makes perfect sense why they promote things like this because they are always looking for every single fault or sin that the any Pope has done because they are trying to attack the papacy. They want people to leave the Church for their blend of heresy, protestants do the exact same thing. So criticizing the Pope at every turn? To what end?

The pope does a good enough job himself in creating a bad image of the papacy, and I disagree that all of his comments and actions will pass away and not be remembered or imitated. Also, one can't be a pollyanna and ignore all of the scandalous things the pope says or does. People who a oblivious to the questionable things Pope Francis does are probably the same people who hear their news on the pope from the mainstream media. Would you rather have people believing the liberal media about what the pope has allegedly done or said that allegedly "changed" the Catholic Church. That's uncharitable if you ask me,

MDA

If they are listening to the liberal media then they have bigger problems in their lives than Pope Francis.
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NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Phyllo - 03-17-2015, 06:47 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-17-2015, 11:08 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Credidi Propter - 03-17-2015, 11:56 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by austenbosten - 03-18-2015, 12:39 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Phyllo - 03-18-2015, 06:28 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Phyllo - 03-18-2015, 08:59 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-18-2015, 10:24 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by austenbosten - 03-18-2015, 11:02 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by GangGreen - 03-18-2015, 01:57 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by austenbosten - 03-18-2015, 02:12 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Phyllo - 03-18-2015, 02:40 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by GangGreen - 03-20-2015, 10:56 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Azygos - 03-20-2015, 03:20 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by GangGreen - 03-20-2015, 03:50 PM
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Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by CaptCrunch73 - 03-20-2015, 05:34 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by austenbosten - 03-20-2015, 05:48 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Azygos - 03-20-2015, 06:01 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by GangGreen - 03-20-2015, 08:50 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Azygos - 03-20-2015, 09:15 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by ArturoOrtiz - 03-21-2015, 01:20 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by VoxClamantis - 03-21-2015, 06:21 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-21-2015, 10:41 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Azygos - 03-21-2015, 11:39 AM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by missadeangelis - 03-21-2015, 12:58 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-21-2015, 01:25 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by AllSeasons - 03-21-2015, 10:05 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by Azygos - 03-22-2015, 02:03 AM
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Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by VoxClamantis - 03-22-2015, 04:28 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-22-2015, 07:27 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by AllSeasons - 03-22-2015, 09:34 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by VoxClamantis - 03-22-2015, 10:07 PM
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Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by missadeangelis - 03-23-2015, 02:33 PM
Re: NYC St. Patricks Parade - by spikepaga - 03-23-2015, 03:17 PM
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