Souls concerning abortion
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(08-10-2015, 11:01 AM)Jeanannemarie Wrote: Thanks, Xandratax I looked it up too, and it leads me right back to my questions on  ecumenism and the "reasonable hope that all are saved" argument.  All of it makes me want to stick to the old teachings that are hard and clear.

While heaven is cleary Catholic, and people are only saved by Jesus, let's not forget that Saint Dismas, the 'good thief' and the first saint, wasn't even baptized. (At least, it remains unknown, if he was or not.) Church teaching leads us thus to the 'baptism of desire,' in such a case where a perfect act of contrition is made by a non-Christian. That's at least what I've gathered so far, from orthodox readings.
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Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-06-2015, 11:51 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Steven - 08-06-2015, 12:39 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 02:15 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-06-2015, 03:04 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by SaintSebastian - 08-06-2015, 03:07 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by SaintSebastian - 08-06-2015, 03:14 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-06-2015, 03:31 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-06-2015, 04:10 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-06-2015, 05:45 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Renatus Frater - 08-06-2015, 06:50 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 09:03 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Acolyte - 08-06-2015, 09:05 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Renatus Frater - 08-06-2015, 09:10 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by richgr - 08-06-2015, 09:15 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-06-2015, 09:22 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Melkite - 08-07-2015, 08:09 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-07-2015, 04:26 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-07-2015, 05:12 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-07-2015, 05:38 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-07-2015, 05:39 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Papist - 08-07-2015, 05:40 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by jovan66102 - 08-07-2015, 06:13 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Cyriacus - 08-07-2015, 06:20 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Acolyte - 08-07-2015, 08:30 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-08-2015, 03:39 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-08-2015, 08:10 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-08-2015, 08:33 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by dcmaccabees - 08-08-2015, 11:21 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-08-2015, 12:44 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-09-2015, 01:16 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-09-2015, 10:06 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-09-2015, 10:19 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-09-2015, 10:35 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by Jeanannemarie - 08-10-2015, 11:01 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by xandratax - 08-10-2015, 11:36 AM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by formerbuddhist - 08-10-2015, 06:09 PM
Re: Souls concerning abortion - by GangGreen - 08-10-2015, 06:18 PM
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