Pope calls Paris terrorist attacks part of 'piecemeal WWIII'
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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/p...iii-39647/

First of all, lots of prayers and condolences for the terrorist attack victims in Paris.  What Pope Francis said here, or implied here, is very interesting.  It seems to me what he's implying is that World War III is being fought between Muslims and Christians.  I don't know if he meant to say that, given the pope's fondness for all the modern ecumenism, but if he did, that would be a refreshing change admitting first that there is a world war going on and that it's the Muslims who are waging war on Christians everywhere in the world.  In any case, I'm glad he came out and said this.

I wish the Church would bring back the Knights Templar or some other military order, to protect the faithful in the world, wherever Christians are being attacked by Muslims and other forces of evil.  Christians are being persecuted so much in this world these days, with attacks still on the rise.  I wish the Church would do more to protect her children.
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What's needed is for an absolute violent backlash against muslims in France. Europeans need to make brutally clear that muslims and Islam only respond to an absolute hatred, rage and obscene brutality that matches their own. It's high time Europeans started to wake up and realize that sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Pray if you must, but pray for  an uprising that drives every muslim man, woman and child back from whence they came.

I know I'm supposed to be Christian but I am tired of all the " pray for peace" and do nothing of so many Christians. These people want us dead or enslaved in every corner of the planet they inhabit. They bring nothing but barbaric cruelty with a thin religious veneer. We need to violently drive them out or support those that want to.

World War III cannot be between Christians and Muslims, as its one sided. The Muslims want us dead but too many Christians refuse to take up arms or even see muslims as the enemy they are. You can't have a war when one side isn't willing to fight or even admit that there's a problem.

What must happen is a far right awakening and the will to take up arms and violently do what's necessary to save Europe. Europe needs a Christian version of Islamic State complete with public executions of men like the ones responsible for these latest islam motivated terrorist attacks.
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Most of who they kill are atheists... Maybe Christian by baptism or heritage, but certainly not in belief.

I agree with FB, it's time for action. Christians of yesteryear wouldn't have put up with this nonsense. Unfortunately, the secular world would never respond to calls from the Church for any kind of crusade. Maybe eventually Europe will wake up and realize what it has turned into by abandoning Christ and his Church.
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(11-14-2015, 10:48 AM)GangGreen Wrote: Most of who they kill are atheists... Maybe Christian by baptism or heritage, but certainly not in belief.

I agree with FB, it's time for action. Christians of yesteryear wouldn't have put up with this nonsense. Unfortunately, the secular world would never respond to calls from the Church for any kind of crusade. Maybe eventually Europe will wake up and realize what it has turned into by abandoning Christ and his Church.

Atheist or not most of these people are our own flesh and blood ancestors. They are cut from the same stock as the great warriors and saints of old. They are the sons and daughters and of Christendom just several centuries removed. They are like the lost sheep that our Lord would brave the rocky slopes to rescue.

What will happen is that the do nothing policies of the euro socialists are going to breed a revival of the far right that most desperate Europeans will support. When the heads start rolling I'll be just as happy to see the effete European intellectuals and ruling classes suffering the same fate as the muslim dogs they so gleefully welcomed. Good riddance to the both of them.




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My concern is that the vision described in the Third Secret of Fatima depicts an ISIS attack on the Vatican. There are parallels or hints regarding Islam in the Fatima apparitions. The name Fatima itself is Muslim. Fatima was the daughter of Mohamed.  The star at her feet, coupled with the name,  has long been surmised an allusion to Islam.

This gravely concerns me.  The symbolism is there and the cause is evident:  the decadence of Europe.  The assassination attempt on Pope St. John Paul II by Mehmet Ali Agca, a Turk, could have been a harbinger of the actual catastrophe coming.

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(11-14-2015, 12:24 PM)Clare Brigid Wrote: My concern is that the vision described in the Third Secret of Fatima depicts an ISIS attack on the Vatican. There are parallels or hints regarding Islam in the Fatima apparitions. The name Fatima itself is Muslim. Fatima was the daughter of Mohamed.  The star at her feet, coupled with the name,  has long been surmised an allusion to Islam.

This gravely concerns me.  The symbolism is there and the cause is evident:  the decadence of Europe.  The assassination attempt on Pope St. John Paul II by Mehmet Ali Agca, a Turk, could have been a harbinger of the actual catastrophe coming.

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There are some interesting and sinister connections no doubt. If the officially released Third Secret deals with ISIS somehow than Rome will be overrun by muslims and the Pope and a vast number of bishops will be slaughtered.

I'm not a Fatimist by any stretch of the imagination but I can see that there could be connections.

Personally I think that barring Divine Intervention the only way for European David to slay the Islamic Goliath is to resort to extreme violence and aggression, both at home against any and all muslims, mosques, businesses and neighborhoods, and to go to all out war against them globally, especially in ISIS strongholds in Syria or Iraq.

I actually hope far right extremists take power in places like Britain or France, as they are the only political parties that have the will to do what needs to be done.
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(11-14-2015, 12:24 PM)Clare Brigid Wrote: My concern is that the vision described in the Third Secret of Fatima depicts an ISIS attack on the Vatican. There are parallels or hints regarding Islam in the Fatima apparitions. The name Fatima itself is Muslim. Fatima was the daughter of Mohamed.  The star at her feet, coupled with the name,  has long been surmised an allusion to Islam.

This is exactly what I'm concerned about, especially after ISIS placed their black flag of death in Saint Peter's Square and took a picture.

To reference the Third Secret:

"The 'bishop clothed in white,' who is the Pope, 'makes his way with great effort toward the cross amid the corpses of those who were martyred. He, too, falls to the ground, apparently dead, under a burst of gunfire.'"

This sounds disturbingly like a group of gun-toting Islamists going in and killing whoever they can. We already know that ISIS is targeting Rome, so who else would they go after as their prime target but the Pope himself?
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I never really noticed the connection but it is eerily applicable. Especially considering the Muslims threats against the vatican. My question would be, how would we go against a religion so greatly rooted into the world. Any sort of counter attack would result in catastrophe. There simply arent enough Christian who are truly willing to fight back. I'm not saying its not possible, just that it would require a miracle, it is beyond any human effort. We must continue to pray the Rosary.
Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us!
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Most of the Catholics in Europe are lax in their faith if they have any faith at all.  They don't go to Mass, and most of those that do don't believe what the Church teaches.  They don't have the fortitude to challenge their culture, if they even see a problem with it at all.  The faith has been so feminized that it is not seen as something worth fighting or dying for.  They're also not having enough children.

The Muslims, however, are a different story.  They are not lax in their faith.  They pray five times a day at specific times.  They all at least try to make a pilgrimage to Mecca.  They are required to perform works of charity.  They also engage in relatively intense fasting during Ramadan.  They believe that what they have is worth fighting for, and worth dying for.  They're also having lots of children.

It's basically how it is in the U.S., only they're further along than we are.  They're basically where we were in the 1970's.  Sounds OK right?  We have 40 years to prevent what's happening in Europe from happening here, don't we?  One problem- we may be stuck in a mess of theological liberalism, but Islam is not.  They're growing, and growing fast.  Their followers tend to be much more devout, and much more willing to lay down their lives for their faith.  Humanly-speaking, the fall of Christendom is inevitable.
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(11-14-2015, 01:54 PM)Dominicus Wrote: I'm not saying its not possible, just that it would require a miracle, it is beyond any human effort. We must continue to pray the Rosary.
Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us!

I believe we are living in a time predicted by Fatima, and I believe that the Holy Father is right that we are in a third World War.  It doesn't look like the wars of the early 20th century, at least not yet. It may end up being worse though. There are no true battle-lines, as populations are mixed up all over the world (similar to France).

I think you are right that we need a miracle to get out of where we find ourselves, with radical atheism on one side, radical Islam on the other, and lax Christianity in the middle, many of whom have no idea what they believe.

I've wondered if that miracle will come as another Fatima, a world-wide one that no one will be able to miss, or dismiss. We definitely need a miracle of some kind.

-Martin
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