sin and Novus Ordo?
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(12-25-2015, 10:59 AM)little_flower10 Wrote: What do you all think of the idea that its a sin to be reverent at a NO because then its like saying that its very pleasing to God? That comes from an article. But my first thought was... If its invalid Mass, then probably. (So if they dance around a statue of Buddha, just leave). But if its valid, - wouldn't the reverence support what IS pleasing to God in the Mass, like - the Sacrifice of His Son? Would it give the impression that the irreverent parts are pleasing to Him too? But I don't get that because reverence is a statement against the irreverence. I don't know if I'm right. The people who have this view would maybe emphasise the seriousness of the irreverence, but what people do around me doesn't invalidate the Mass..

The bottom line is that if you are not a Sedevacantist than you must accept that if the rubrics are followed the Mass of Paul VI  is a valid Liturgy that is pleasing to God. It is certainly not unambiguously and solidly Catholic in the same way the old rite is, but it is a valid Mass.

If someone were to place a Buddha statue on the altar and prance around it I would suggest you leave, as whoever allows such nonsense to occur is not serious about their Faith. Gross and blatant abuses such as a Buddha statue at Mass, con celebration with protestants or laymen, deliberate ad libbing etc. are reasons to walk out, at least in my own opinion.

There very diverse opinions amongst Catholics about all this stuff though, so I am not an expert. What works for me is to step out of all the abstractions and academic exercises about all of it and just go to the most reverent place I can for my holy days and Sunday's and spend the rest of the time praying the hours and the Jesus Prayer.

Know what the Church teaches, listen to your conscience and than make an informed decision. God is NOT a God of excessive legalisms and abstractions who wants us wallowing in the misery of scrupulosity. Do the best you can and leave it up to God.

One thing I notice about trads is that so many are laboring under the poison of Scrupulosity. That will destroy your faith faster than being a devout home aloner will I can promise that much.

Seriously, just do the best you can. If there's a Buddha statue walk out. God will not reproach you for walking out of a Liturgy that is so blatantly abusive. But...if you believe that the New Rite is in itself abusive than you're better off a home aloner or a sedvacantist.

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sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 02:35 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by DeoDuce - 12-25-2015, 03:47 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Share Love - 12-25-2015, 03:50 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Bourbon Apocalypse - 12-25-2015, 03:50 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Leonhard - 12-25-2015, 04:08 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Poche - 12-25-2015, 04:58 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by CaptCrunch73 - 12-25-2015, 06:23 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by formerbuddhist - 12-25-2015, 09:28 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Renatus Frater - 12-25-2015, 10:22 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by GangGreen - 12-25-2015, 10:24 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 10:28 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by GangGreen - 12-25-2015, 10:39 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 10:43 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 10:47 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 10:59 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by formerbuddhist - 12-25-2015, 12:06 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Renatus Frater - 12-25-2015, 01:03 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 01:13 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 01:26 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by ermy_law - 12-25-2015, 01:44 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by MagisterMusicae - 12-25-2015, 05:28 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Renatus Frater - 12-25-2015, 05:35 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-25-2015, 06:19 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by MagisterMusicae - 12-27-2015, 12:05 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by MagisterMusicae - 12-27-2015, 12:32 AM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by little_flower10 - 12-27-2015, 04:17 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by MagisterMusicae - 12-28-2015, 12:55 PM
Re: sin and Novus Ordo? - by Qoheleth - 12-28-2015, 02:00 PM
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