Martin Luther was a ‘teacher of the faith’, say German bishops

From The Catholic Herald:

Martin Luther was a ‘teacher of the faith’, say German bishops

In a new report Germany's bishops say the 500th anniversary of the Reformation must involve repentance on both sides.

Vox Wrote:
Yup, some members of the human element of the Church sold indulgences and engaged in simony. Old news. Done apologized for. Now it's everyone else's turn.

Germany’s Catholic bishops have praised Martin Luther as a “Gospel witness and teacher of the faith” and called for closer ties with Protestants.

Vox Wrote:
A "teacher of of the faith" even though he denies certain Sacraments, deplores celibacy, etc.? Come again? And how to praise the heretic Luther while also appeasing our "elder brothers" when Luther wrote such beauties as "On the Jews and their Lies"?

When you get into the business of pleasing everyone but God, things can get tricky!

In a 206-page report, “The Reformation in Ecumenical Perspective”, Bishop Gerhard Feige of Magdeburg, chairman of the German bishops’ ecumenical commission, said the “history of the Reformation has encountered a changeable reception in the Catholic Church, where its events and protagonists were long seen in a negative, derogatory light”.

“While the wounds are still felt to the present day, it is gratifying that Catholic theology has succeeded, in the meantime, in soberly reconsidering the events of the 16th century,” he said in the report, published this week by Germany’s Bonn-based bishops’ conference.

Vox Wrote:
"Catholic theology" reconsiders things? How can an abstract thing like "theology" do anything? I think he means to say that certain self-proclaimed Catholic theologians have "reconsidered" things and are willing to sell out the Faith in order to appease.

Bishop Feige said the “history and consequences” of the Reformation would be debated during its upcoming 500th anniversary, but added that there was consensus that previous mutual condemnations were invalid.

“Memories of the Reformation and the subsequent separation of Western Christianity are not free from pain,” Bishop Feige said. “But through lengthy ecumenical dialogue, the theological differences rooted in the period have been re-evaluated – as is documented in the work presented by our ecumenical commission.”

Vox Wrote:
Those theological differences can only be reconciled if the non-Catholic side embraces the Catholic position. Anything else is a selling out of the Faith.

Martin Lazar, the Magdeburg diocesan spokesman, told Catholic News Service on Wednesday that the Reformation still caused tensions in Germany, especially “in religiously separated families.”

The bishops’ report said the “Catholic Church may recognise today what was important in the Reformation – namely, that Sacred Scripture is the centre and standard for all Christian life.

Vox Wrote:"The" center and standard? What about Tradition and the Magisterium? Are we being told that the Church now embraced sola scriptura or something?

“Connected with this is Martin Luther’s fundamental insight that God’s self-revelation in Jesus Christ for the salvation of the people is proclaimed in the Gospel – that Jesus Christ is the centre of Scripture and the only mediator.”

Vox Wrote:LOL What?!?!? Are they implying that, before Luther, the Truth that Jesus Christ is the center of Scripture and the Way, the Truth, and the Life, the One by Whom we get to the Father? Really?!

The Reformation is traditionally dated from the October 1517 publication of Luther’s 95 Theses, questioning the sale of indulgences and the Gospel foundations of papal authority.

Luther was excommunicated by Pope Leo X in January 1521 and outlawed by Holy Roman Emperor Charles V.

The German bishops describe Luther as “a religious pathfinder, Gospel witness and teacher of the faith,” whose “concern for renewal in repentance and conversion” had not received an “adequate hearing” in Rome.

Vox Wrote:Maybe his concerns weren't adequately heard in Rome; I don't know. But what he did with those concerns ended up rending Christendom and getting millions to embrace heresy and leave the Church founded by Christ. Sorry, but I can't celebrate the guy.

They said the reformer’s work still posed a “theological and spiritual challenge” and had “ecclesial and political implications for understanding the Church and the Magisterium.”

Vox Wrote:
A "theological and spiritual challenge" how exactly? What is he allegedly able to teach us, after 1500 years of the Church's earthly existence, about the proper understanding of the Church and Her Magisterium? What did the Church Fathers miss that this heretic thought up while sitting on his toilet? (another interesting article on that)

The report said a joint Catholic-Lutheran statement in 1980 commemorating the Augsburg Confession, which set out the new Lutheran faith, had been crucial in bringing churches closer, while another ecumenical statement in 1983, on the 500th anniversary of Luther’s birth, had started an “intensive engagement” with the reformer’s work.

A historic 1999 joint declaration on the doctrine of justification was a “milestone in ecumenical dialogue,” the report said, by recognising that remaining differences should “no longer have a church-dividing effect.”

Vox Wrote:

First of all, the Lutheran faith community isn't a "church." Second of all, how can we not be divided when Lutherans embrace sola fide and sola scriptura, deny some of Christ's Sacraments, deny that the Catholic Church is the One, True Church outside of which no one is saved, deny papal authority, etc., etc.?

The bishops’ report includes June 2015 conciliatory letters between the German bishops’ conference president, Cardinal Reinhard Marx, and Lutheran Bishop Heinrich Strohm, president of the Evangelical Church of Germany, outlining plans for a 2017 ecumenical pilgrimage to the Holy Land and a Lent service devoted to “healing memories.”

In an interview with CNS, the ecumenical commission’s deputy chairman, Bishop Heinz Algermissen of Fulda, said Catholic-Lutheran ties had improved since the Second Vatican Council, but that churches must work for “visible unity, not just reconciled diversity.”

“This means not only praying together, but meeting the challenge of speaking with one voice as Christians when we are all challenged by aggressive atheism and secularism, as well as by [radicalised] Islam. Otherwise we will lose more and more ground,” he said.

Vox Wrote:"Dialoguing" (I hate that word) in order to confirm what we do have in common and to band together enough to fight various political and social phenomena is great. But to go beyond that and to water down Catholic doctrine -- das las sein.

“In commemorating the Reformation, we cannot just see it as a jubilee, but should also admit our guilt for past errors and repent on both sides for the past 500 years,” he added.

Catholics make up 29 per cent of Germany’s 82 million inhabitants, with the Evangelical Church of Germany accounting for 27 per cent, although all denominations have faced declining membership.

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