Pope signals elderly married men could become priests
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Drip. Drip. Drip. From Reuters:




World News | Fri Mar 10, 2017 | 4:41pm EST
Pope signals elderly married men could become priests


Pope Francis has said he is willing to consider ordaining older married men as priests in isolated communities, but has ruled out making celibacy optional to tackle a shortage of clergy.

Vox Wrote:
That sentence makes zero sense. "he is will to consider ordaining non-celibate men as priests in isolated communities, but has ruled out making celibacy optional." Say what?

The shortage has prompted calls from some progressives to end the ancient tradition of celibacy for Roman Catholic priests.

Such a move would represent revolutionary change for the Catholic Church and would likely face massive resistance.

Reformers, however, have long suggested that the Vatican could ordain "viri probati" -- Latin for men of proven character -- who tend to be older, with grown-up families if married.

In an interview with Germany's Die Zeit newspaper, the pope said this option could be considered.

"We have to give a thought to whether viri probati are a possibility. We then also need to determine which tasks they could take on, such as in isolated areas, for example," he was quoted as saying.

He ruled out, however, opening the priesthood to all married men or watering down the Catholic Church's commitment to celibacy, which is seen as a virtue that frees priests to devote their lives fully to serve God.

"Voluntary celibacy is often discussed in this context, especially in places where there are shortages of clerics. But voluntary celibacy is not a solution," he said.

Prominent Catholics representing both the progressive and conservative wings of the U.S. church voiced support on Friday for the pope's suggestion, with both camps seeing the move as a practical solution to the chronic shortage of priests.

A U.S. university report published in 2015 said the world's Catholic population had increased by 57 percent, or 445 million people, between 1980 and 2012, while the number of priests over the same period had dropped by 17 percent, or 20,547.

Vox Wrote:
Go trad. It's trad seminaries that are full.

In Brazil, the nation with more Catholics than any other, the faithful also expressed support for the viri probati idea.

"If he (a priest) had a wife and children, he may have a much fuller experience, which could help those around him," said Paulo Franca, attending an afternoon Mass at the Santa Luzia Church in Rio de Janeiro.

The church has already sought to address a potential shortage of priests by promoting the use of deacons -- male clerics who can be married and sit just behind priests in the church hierarchy. They can officiate at baptisms, funerals and weddings, but are not allowed to celebrate Mass, hear confessions or anoint the sick.

The growth in the number of deacons has made U.S. Catholics more comfortable with the idea of married men playing an important role in services, said Bill Donohue, chairman of the conservative-leaning Catholic League.

"My only concern is how this will impact on those priests who are single," Donohue said in a phone interview.

"You have a lot of funerals on weekends, there are weddings and what not. I can see a situation where a married priest would say, 'I have to go to my kids' soccer game, I have responsibilities that you don’t have.’ They have to think this through a bit more."

In Buenos Aires, where Pope Francis was formerly archbishop, some locals applauded his more progressive leanings.

“I think Francis is causing a great revolution in the church ... if other religions have it (marriage) why not? Maybe priesthood could even be offered to women,” said Mirta Cortizo.

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Heck yeah! Womyn priests now! If other religions have them, then why not us? It just makes sense!

(Reporting by Erik Kirschbaum, Additional reporting by Scott Malone in Boston, Miguel Lobianco in Buenos Aires, and Edson Ribeiro and Sebastian Rocandio in Rio de Janeiro; Writing by Crispian Balmer; Editing by Toby Davis and Tom Brown)



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Although I can't be sure, I think it could give the progressives a firmer foot in the door to abolishing celibacy altogether.  It is interesting that one of the commenters in the article even mentioned women "priests" as a possibility if the Church allows married priests.  Of course, the Holy Father's comments don't indicate that the door to optional celibacy will be happening anytime soon, the relaxation of celibacy requirements sets a precedent, I fear.  I mean, I know that in the Eastern rites married men can become priests (right?) and that we allow married Anglican priests to be ordained in the Church if they convert.  So maybe this proposal won't be a slippery slope?  I don't know.  Still, very concerning.
"For the true friends of the people are neither revolutionaries nor innovators, but traditionalists."
- Pope St. Pius X

"For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears: And will indeed turn away their hearing from the truth, but will be turned unto fables."
- 2 Timothy 4:3-4

"Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity."
- 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
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Perhaps this is how Modernism will die.  Not with a bang, but a whimper.  Where the old, frail, decrepit modernist hippies gasp for their last breath, wondering what has happened in their lives that went so wrong.  How could they let it all fall through...for professing they were wise, they became fools.

I know for me, I have no patience for this self-contradicting Modernist chyurch-garbage, and I know I am not alone.  You cannot tell me all of these sexual rules I have to abide by, and then embrace a sodomite couple and say "it's loving, it's just as good!"

Many young men and women who have grown up under the self-contradicting fairy-tales of marxist-Progressivism have wholeheartedly rejected them and leave these so-called parishes in droves who seem to think Mary Poppins is just a good of a role model as St Catherine of Sienna.  There is a growing movement for people who want actual truth and not sophistic-BS...like the prior generations wanted.  No don't tell me, 'all's well in Hell'...tell me the Truth.

It is for this reason the youth (and the dope "pope" Frank sees it),  Traditionalism is re-surging, like fresh skin under the form of a bloody, bruised scab.
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The last two priests in my parent's parish (my first 'home' parish) have been divorced men with children.  ???
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