Make Reparation for Sacrilege in Rome today
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ACT OF REPARATION


O Sacred Heart of Jesus, animated with a desire to repair the outrages unceasingly offered to Thee, we prostrate before Thy throne of mercy, and in the name of all mankind, pledge our love and fidelity to Thee!

The more Thy mysteries are blasphemed, the more firmly we shall believe them, O Sacred Heart of Jesus!

The more impiety endeavors to extinguish our hopes of immortality, the more we shall trust in Thy Heart, sole hope of mankind!

The more hearts resist Thy Divine attractions, the more we shall love Thee, O infinitely amiable Heart of Jesus!

The more unbelief attacks Thy Divinity, the more humbly and profoundly we shall adore It, O Divine Heart of Jesus!

The more Thy holy laws are transgressed and ignored, the more we shall delight to observe them, O most holy Heart of Jesus!

The more Thy Sacraments are despised and abandoned, the more frequently we shall receive them with love and reverence, O most liberal Heart of Jesus!

The more the imitation of Thy virtues is neglected and forgotten, the more we shall endeavor to practice them, O Heart, model of every virtue! 

The more the devil labors to destroy souls, the more we shall be inflamed with desire to save them, O Heart of Jesus, zealous Lover of souls!

The more sin and impurity destroy the image of God in man, the more we shall try by purity of life to be a living temple of the Holy Spirit, O Heart of Jesus!

The more Thy Holy Church is despised, the more we shall endeavor to be her faithful children, O Sweet Heart of Jesus!

The more Thy Vicar on earth is persecuted, the more will we honor him as the infallible head of Thy Holy Church, show our fidelity and pray for him, O kingly Heart of Jesus!

O Sacred Heart, through Thy powerful grace, may we become Thy apostles in the midst of a corrupted world, and be Thy crown in the kingdom of Heaven.  Amen.
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(03-14-2017, 02:15 PM)BC Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 11:55 PM)Poche Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 08:58 AM)Justin Alphonsus Wrote: Today, I am sure many have heard, a group of Anglicans will be allowed to use the High Altar in St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate their liturgy around 5:30 Roman time.

If anybody, offer up at that time some prayer, a rosary if possible in reparation for this sacrilege.

Why is it sacrilege if they are praying to God?

Surely, surely by now you have to know that a falsified liturgy is sacrilege, even more so being offered on a true Catholic altar.

How can you not know this?

Their Evensong has its inspiration form the Benedictine Liturgy which was promoted by Pope Gregory I. Wouldn't praying with them be a prelude to their conversion?   
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(03-14-2017, 01:31 PM)ermy_law Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 11:55 PM)Poche Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 08:58 AM)Justin Alphonsus Wrote: Today, I am sure many have heard, a group of Anglicans will be allowed to use the High Altar in St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate their liturgy around 5:30 Roman time.

If anybody, offer up at that time some prayer, a rosary if possible in reparation for this sacrilege.

Why is it sacrilege if they are praying to God?

Sacrilege is the irreverent treatment of sacred things.

False worship of the True God violates the First Commandment. Protestant worship is false worship. Therefore, Protestant worship violates the First Commandment.

Allowing the tomb of St. Peter, an unquestionably sacred thing, to be used to violate the First Commandment is, therefore, sacrilege.

So when we ask potential converts to join us in prayer that is an example of false worship?
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(03-21-2017, 12:14 AM)Poche Wrote:
(03-14-2017, 02:15 PM)BC Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 11:55 PM)Poche Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 08:58 AM)Justin Alphonsus Wrote: Today, I am sure many have heard, a group of Anglicans will be allowed to use the High Altar in St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate their liturgy around 5:30 Roman time.

If anybody, offer up at that time some prayer, a rosary if possible in reparation for this sacrilege.

Why is it sacrilege if they are praying to God?

Surely, surely by now you have to know that a falsified liturgy is sacrilege, even more so being offered on a true Catholic altar.

How can you not know this?

Their Evensong has its inspiration form the Benedictine Liturgy which was promoted by Pope Gregory I. Wouldn't praying with them be a prelude to their conversion? 

"So, Venerable Brethren, it is clear why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics: for the union of Christians can only be promoted by promoting the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it, for in the past they have unhappily left it. To the one true Church of Christ, we say, which is visible to all, and which is to remain, according to the will of its Author, exactly the same as He instituted it. During the lapse of centuries, the mystical Spouse of Christ has never been contaminated, nor can she ever in the future be contaminated, as Cyprian bears witness: "The Bride of Christ cannot be made false to her Spouse: she is incorrupt and modest. She knows but one dwelling, she guards the sanctity of the nuptial chamber chastely and modestly." The same holy Martyr with good reason marveled exceedingly that anyone could believe that "this unity in the Church which arises from a divine foundation, and which is knit together by heavenly sacraments, could be rent and torn asunder by the force of contrary wills." For since the mystical body of Christ, in the same manner as His physical body, is one, compacted and fitly joined together, it were foolish and out of place to say that the mystical body is made up of members which are disunited and scattered abroad: whosoever therefore is not united with the body is no member of it, neither is he in communion with Christ its head. "

Pope Pius XI
Mortalium Animos
January 6, 1928
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(03-21-2017, 12:14 AM)Poche Wrote: Their Evensong has its inspiration form the Benedictine Liturgy which was promoted by Pope Gregory I.

A Black Mass also has it's inspiration from the Tridentine Mass. What's your point? That rites stolen from the Catholic Church by a heretical sect literally founded on the principal of adultery somehow become valid Catholic workship precicesly because they were stolen from the Church? 

(03-21-2017, 12:14 AM)Poche Wrote: Wouldn't praying with them be a prelude to their conversion?

This is not praying together for their conversion. This is almost literally the exact opposite that. It is confirming them in their error by telling them that what they have is so excellent, that one of the greatest and most holy sites in the entire world is entirely worthy of accepting those ritual acts which they perform.

But to not let you dodge the question, please tell us, which one of the below statements to you disagree with?

1. Sacrilege is the irreverent treatment of sacred things.
2.False worship of the True God violates the First Commandment.
3. Protestant worship is false worship.
4. Therefore, Protestant worship violates the First Commandment.
5. Allowing the tomb of St. Peter, an unquestionably sacred thing, to be used to violate the First Commandment is, therefore, sacrilege.
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(03-21-2017, 12:14 AM)Poche Wrote:
(03-14-2017, 02:15 PM)BC Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 11:55 PM)Poche Wrote:
(03-13-2017, 08:58 AM)Justin Alphonsus Wrote: Today, I am sure many have heard, a group of Anglicans will be allowed to use the High Altar in St. Peter's Basilica to celebrate their liturgy around 5:30 Roman time.

If anybody, offer up at that time some prayer, a rosary if possible in reparation for this sacrilege.

Why is it sacrilege if they are praying to God?

Surely, surely by now you have to know that a falsified liturgy is sacrilege, even more so being offered on a true Catholic altar.

How can you not know this?

Their Evensong has its inspiration form the Benedictine Liturgy which was promoted by Pope Gregory I. Wouldn't praying with them be a prelude to their conversion?   

English Catholic martyr, St. Margaret Clitherow, on Friday the 25th of March 1586, as she was taken to the Tolbooth on Ouse Bridge in York where a small crowd awaited to witness her execution. when asked by an Anglican minister to pray with him, she refused, and stated “I will not pray with you, and you shall not pray with me; neither will I say Amen to your prayers, nor shall you to mine.”

This holy woman saint preferred being crushed to death than pray with Anglicans.  Think about that.  And now think about what is going on currently, which tramples on her witness and tens of thousands of other English Catholics at the time.

It is not lawful to pray publicly with heretics or promote heretical services in order to convert them first of all.  Secondly, the whole ecumenical movement is decidedly not about conversion (to the Catholic Church or risk damnation), but about convergence. 

As a refresher, before Vatican II contradicted the previous Magisterium on Interfaith worship to the delight of Freemasonry, this was/is the Church's position:

"Is it permitted for Catholics to be present at, or to take part in, conventions, gatherings, meetings, or societies of non-Catholics which aim to associate together under a single agreement everyone who, in any way, lays claim to the name Christian? In the negative!... It is clear, therefore, why this Apostolic See has never allowed its subjects to take part in the assemblies of non-Catholics, There is only one wav in which the unity of Christians may be fostered, and that is by furthering the return to the one true Church of Christ those who are separated from her. " (Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos).

The 1917 Code of Canon Law: " It is not permitted at all for the faithful to assist in any active manner at or to have any part in the worship of non-Catholics." [Canon 1258]

"How does a Catholic sin against faith? A Catholic sins against Faith by Apostasy, heresy, indifferentism and by taking part in non-Catholic worship." (Catechism of the Council of Trent, Catechism of Pope St. Pius X and The Baltimore Catechism).

"One must neither pray nor sing psalms with heretics, and whoever shall communicate with those who are cut off from the communion of the Church, whether clergy or layman: let him be excommunicated. "-Council of Carthage

"No one shall pray in common with heretics and schismatics." Council of Laodicea

"If any ecclesiastic or layman shall go into the synagogue of the Jews or to the meeting-houses of the heretics to join in prayer with them, let them be deposed and deprived of communion If any Bishops or Priest or Deacon shall join in prayer with heretics, let him be suspended from Communion" - III Council of Constantinople.

"We decree that those who give credence to the teachings of heretics, as well as those who receive, defend, or patronize them, are excommunicated... If anyone refuses to avoid such accomplices after they have been ostracized by the Church, let them also be excommunicated" - IV Lateran Council

"These men are Protestants; they are heretics. Have nothing to do with them.! -  St. Anthony Mary Claret, The Modern Apostles.


What do you think St. Anthony would say to having Protestants celebrate their liturgy on the altar of St. Peter?

What has happened is a triple whammy.

1) Allow false worship from heretics to commit sacrilege in the temple of God
2) Promote religious indifferentism
3) Jeopardize the salvation of all of those who permitted such as, those who took part in it, and every Catholic who then follows into sinful indifference by witnessing Scandal.

Pope Pius XII, Instruction De Motione Oecumenica on the Ecumenical Movement (1949) http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFECUM.HTM

The Holy Office on Worship with Non-Catholics from 1622 to 1939 http://www.latinmassmagazine.com/article...Allan.html

(03-21-2017, 12:16 AM)Poche Wrote: So when we ask potential converts to join us in prayer that is an example of false worship?

That is not what is happening.  Anglicans are not being asked to come to Catholic mass nor even privately in praying the Catholic "Our Father."  This is another matter entirely, namely inviting them to bring their own false worship very publicly into the Catholic Sanctuary. 

It is a matter of making distinctions.
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That raises some interesting questions, BC. What do we do if, for example, the family wants to say grace and not everyone there is Catholic?
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(03-21-2017, 10:47 AM)In His Love Wrote: That raises some interesting questions, BC. What do we do if, for example, the family wants to say grace and not everyone there is Catholic?

It does. And really almost everybody these days is affected by this. There is no problem with the above though, really.  If a Catholic family wants to pray and non-Catholics are present as guests so be it. They are free to join in or remain silent.  It is the Catholics' house. It's not really prayer in common.  Non-Catholics are just there.  There isn't any sin involved on the Catholics part.

Now if a Catholic is an a non-Catholic household and there is prayer led by a non-Catholic it is probably best to remain silent and pray one's own Catholic prayer or not even be there but sometimes it is unavoidable.

But this is all in a private setting and there is no issue of scandal like there would be in a public worship setting. 

St. Margaret Clitherow's example should give us pause though, I think.

Some previous saints would apparently not have anything to do with heretics at all they were so jealous of God's honor towards those who corrupt true doctrine:

"St. Anthony the Abbot would not speak to a heretic, except to exhort him to the true faith; and he drove all heretics from his mountain, calling them venomous serpents." - St. Athanasius on the life of St. Anthony the Hermit,

"It is therefore unlawful, and a profanation, and an act the punishment of which is death, to love to associate with unholy heretics, and to unite oneself to their communion" – St.. Cyril of Alexandri.

“Saint Peter and Paul have loathed heretics, and in their Epistles have warned us to avoid them” – St. Cyprian

St. Anthasius went as far as refusing the name of Christian to those who left the Church as he openly affirms "Those who go off to heretics, and all who leave the Church for heresy, abandon the name of Christ. Those who call these men "Christians" are in griev-ous error, since they neither understand Scripture at all nor the faith which it contains." - Discourse Against the Arians," Bk. I, ch.1, no. 1, PG 26:11

"St. John, the disciple of the Lord, (the Apostle of love), going to bathe at Ephesus, and .finding Cerinthus inside, rushed out ()f the bathhouse without bathing, shouting: 'Let us fly, lest even the bath-house fall down, for Cerinthas, the enemy of truth, is inside!' And Polycarp himself replied to Marcion, who met him on one occasion asking: 'Do you know me?' '1 do know you', replied Polycarp, 'I know you to be the .first born of Satan!' Such was the horror which the Apostles and their disciples had against holding even verbal , communication with any corrupters of the truth"  - St.  Irenaeus of Lyon, Against the Heresies, book III.

Now these examples seem pretty severe today.  I don't think everyone is expected to do this or is even prudent or the approach that will potentially win the most people over.  However, I do think we should be very careful about positively affirming heretics in their heresy and non Catholic Church status at the very least.  This can be done subtly and gently and through intimation and not necessarily through dramatic denouncing. 

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(03-13-2017, 11:55 PM)Poche Wrote: Why is it sacrilege if they are praying to God?
Prayer to God--presuming the prayers are orthodox--is not a problem (not everything a non-Catholic does is a sin).  Prayer in common--again presuming the orthodoxy of the prayer--is also not per se problematic, provided there is no danger of scandal or indifference (e.g. an inference of a unity that does not exist). Again, assuming all those criteria are met in this case, I think it is the simulation of the Sacrament on a consecrated altar that is the problem. 
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