What's the big deal with the Jews
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(04-12-2017, 06:00 PM)BC Wrote: What errors? What context?

May want to refresh your theological textbooks.
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(04-12-2017, 06:07 PM)Macarius Wrote:
(04-12-2017, 06:00 PM)BC Wrote: What errors? What context?

May want to refresh your theological textbooks.

I think that about says it all, when one can dismiss St. Paul through Padre Pio, because of historical contextual criticism and well we know better now...

You have aligned yourself with the principles of Modernism, of which no Catholic teaching can escape being explained away.

You can keep those new theological textbooks.
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(04-12-2017, 06:36 PM)BC Wrote: You have aligned yourself with the principles of Modernism

So now I am a Modernist as well, huh? As I mentioned in another thread:

(04-12-2017, 04:08 PM)Macarius Wrote: sometimes we throw the word "modernist" around like a ping-pong ball in the Traditionalist world to anyone who does not seem to agree with us.

Therefore:

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(04-12-2017, 10:20 PM)Macarius Wrote:
(04-12-2017, 06:36 PM)BC Wrote: You have aligned yourself with the principles of Modernism

So now I am a Modernist as well, huh? As I mentioned in another thread:

(04-12-2017, 04:08 PM)Macarius Wrote: sometimes we throw the word "modernist" around like a ping-pong ball in the Traditionalist world to anyone who does not seem to agree with us.

Therefore:

I said you were aligning yourself with the principles of Modernism, which dismisses Catholic teaching and positions because they were written in a certain context and age that are therefore no longer valid for the current time.  It is not a matter of  mere arbitrary disagreement.
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                                                              I've been called an anti-Semite numerous times by Novus Ordo Catholics, and not because I denied the Holocaust or said all or most Jews are dishonest, disproportionately represented in leftist, anti-Christian movements, etc,. I was called an anti-Semite for saying that we should go back to the Good Friday prayer for the Jews that was in use until 1959, and I have insisted that they positively are not our elder brothers in the faith, and that to pray, 'that they may continue to grow in the love of his name and in faithfulness to his covenant', is impossible because they do not love His Name, nor are they faithful to His covenant.
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(04-13-2017, 11:37 AM)Eric F Wrote: I have insisted that they positively are not our elder brothers in the faith

They could be considered elder brothers, but if you look at elder brothers in Scripture, it's not a positive portrayal. It's the younger brother that's the faithful one, and the one favoured by God - Abel, Jacob, and Isaac vs Cain, Esau, and Ishmael.

Then there's Galatians 4, 21-31, where those who remain under the law are compared to the elder brother, Ishmael, but those under the new covenant are compared to Isaac, the younger brother.

"Tell me, you that desire to be under the law, have you not read the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, and the other by a free woman. But he who was of the bondwoman, was born according to the flesh: but he of the free woman, was by promise. Which things are said by an allegory. For these are the two testaments. The one from mount Sina, engendering unto bondage; which is Agar: For Sina is a mountain in Arabia, which hath affinity to that Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But that Jerusalem, which is above, is free: which is our mother. For it is written: Rejoice, thou barren, that bearest not: break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for many are the children of the desolate, more than of her that hath a husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he, that was born according to the flesh, persecuted him that was after the spirit; so also it is now. But what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son; for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman. So then, brethren, we are not the children of the bondwoman, but of the free: by the freedom wherewith Christ has made us free."

(04-13-2017, 11:37 AM)Eric F Wrote: and that to pray, 'that they may continue to grow in the love of his name and in faithfulness to his covenant', is impossible because they do not love His Name, nor are they faithful to His covenant.

One could interpret that as meaning accepting Jesus as the Messias and becoming Catholic, since that's the only way to be faithful.
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