Hold on a minute now, let us not let be distracted from the real problem here as I see it. Voris NEVER blames a pope for anything, that is his way. Here he is addressing Pope Francis’s letter that gave permission to give Holy Communion to married people in a second or more adulterous situation ‘under certain circumstances’ which left it open to every circumstance. Now as I understand it, it was Francis himself who made it an act of the Magisterium recently.
Note Voris says it was the Argentine bishops who insisted it was an act of the magisterium. He then added ‘while it may appear to be a crisis of the Papacy, the ‘Holy Spirit’ will guide and protect it as He always does.’ Good old Voris, I said, actually trying to address this problem he absolves Pope Francis completely. He is under the guidance of the ‘Holy Spirit.’ He then goes on to lay the blame on the fact that so many priests and bishops today do not believe in the Real Presence, a fact well known by forum users at least. But does this not infer that his Pope Frances is one of those disbelievers?
What Voris could be doing is explaining to us how the ‘gates of Hell have not prevailed?’ All my Catholic life I understood the God would not allow a pope to use his infallible magisterium to rubber stamp error. It comes under the dogma of infallibility. I have read and heard of so many popes offering errors from the Pontifical Academy of Sciences to aeroplanes, but never once using their position of Pope to RULE on a matter of faith and morals.
That then is the real problem for traditional Catholics (sad when we have to distinguish between different levels of Catholicity) not that there is widespread non-belief in the Real Presence. I never thought I would see the day when the ‘Holy Spirit’ would allow a pope to teach and permit error. I cannot understand it, unless Francis is not a pope or the ‘Holy Ghost’ has abandoned Rome for now and will come back someday to sort it - and the Gates of Hell - out
Note Voris says it was the Argentine bishops who insisted it was an act of the magisterium. He then added ‘while it may appear to be a crisis of the Papacy, the ‘Holy Spirit’ will guide and protect it as He always does.’ Good old Voris, I said, actually trying to address this problem he absolves Pope Francis completely. He is under the guidance of the ‘Holy Spirit.’ He then goes on to lay the blame on the fact that so many priests and bishops today do not believe in the Real Presence, a fact well known by forum users at least. But does this not infer that his Pope Frances is one of those disbelievers?
What Voris could be doing is explaining to us how the ‘gates of Hell have not prevailed?’ All my Catholic life I understood the God would not allow a pope to use his infallible magisterium to rubber stamp error. It comes under the dogma of infallibility. I have read and heard of so many popes offering errors from the Pontifical Academy of Sciences to aeroplanes, but never once using their position of Pope to RULE on a matter of faith and morals.
That then is the real problem for traditional Catholics (sad when we have to distinguish between different levels of Catholicity) not that there is widespread non-belief in the Real Presence. I never thought I would see the day when the ‘Holy Spirit’ would allow a pope to teach and permit error. I cannot understand it, unless Francis is not a pope or the ‘Holy Ghost’ has abandoned Rome for now and will come back someday to sort it - and the Gates of Hell - out