Pope Seeks to Change the "Lord's Prayer"
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(12-07-2017, 04:52 PM)prostrateinawe Wrote: Well said to each of the posters.  But isn't the Pope simply upholding the law of 'Lex orandi, lex credendi'?  The law of prayer is the law of belief.  As our societies change and languages evolve, words take on different meanings for different people.  I think the Pope is reacting to many who say, "why would God lead us into temptation?"  I am not a student of Aramaic but I would love to know what Our Lord's words originally were.  Maybe the Latin was really trying to say "lead us away from temptation" (just a wild guess) but I admit I don't understand the English version "lead us not into temptation" and there has been a disconnect there for me personally for a long time.


Let me resurrect this thread.

Maybe the literal is not so far off according to this passage of scripture: 


“And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying: That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity.”
(2 Thes 2)
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RE: Pope Seeks to Change the "Lord's Prayer" - by cassini - 12-24-2017, 06:35 PM



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