May God Have Mercy on His Church!
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(02-06-2018, 02:31 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 08:02 AM)dove77 Wrote: I think Pope Francis is being honest and I do not see him condoning anything as far as behavior against the teachings of the church but is inviting everyone in with all their errors of judgement, all of their blindness, all of their denials and deep rooted injuries that set them off the narrow path so they can be          exposed to the Hope and Truth of Christ. This is the Popes responsibility .

So inviting a well known supporter of 'LGBT rights' who approves of abortion and homosexual 'marriage' as Papal Lenten Preacher, and selling out Christ's Church to the Red Slavemasters is part of the Pope's responsibilities? I'm beginning to get the definite feeling that you're on the wrong forum, and maybe would be more comfortable on a forum which supports and praises the heresies emanating from Rome.Th
I don't believe the Popes purpose is to commit heresy.  His purpose is to show compassion for all people. , to meet them where they are. I think of him as having the responsibility of a Doctor in a hospital emergency room.
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(02-06-2018, 09:11 PM)dove77 Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 02:31 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 08:02 AM)dove77 Wrote: I think Pope Francis is being honest and I do not see him condoning anything as far as behavior against the teachings of the church but is inviting everyone in with all their errors of judgement, all of their blindness, all of their denials and deep rooted injuries that set them off the narrow path so they can be          exposed to the Hope and Truth of Christ. This is the Popes responsibility .

So inviting a well known supporter of 'LGBT rights' who approves of abortion and homosexual 'marriage' as Papal Lenten Preacher, and selling out Christ's Church to the Red Slavemasters is part of the Pope's responsibilities? I'm beginning to get the definite feeling that you're on the wrong forum, and maybe would be more comfortable on a forum which supports and praises the heresies emanating from Rome.Th
I don't believe the Popes purpose is to commit heresy.  His purpose is to show compassion for all people. , to meet them where they are. I think of him as having the responsibility of a Doctor in a hospital emergency room.

How is it compassionate for a doctor to invite everyone to his emergency room and withhold the cure?
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(02-06-2018, 09:11 PM)Udove77 Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 02:31 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 08:02 AM)dove77 Wrote: I think Pope Francis is being honest and I do not see him condoning anything as far as behavior against the teachings of the church but is inviting everyone in with all their errors of judgement, all of their blindness, all of their denials and deep rooted injuries that set them off the narrow path so they can be          exposed to the Hope and Truth of Christ. This is the Popes responsibility .

So inviting a well known supporter of 'LGBT rights' who approves of abortion and homosexual 'marriage' as Papal Lenten Preacher, and selling out Christ's Church to the Red Slavemasters is part of the Pope's responsibilities? I'm beginning to get the definite feeling that you're on the wrong forum, and maybe would be more comfortable on a forum which supports and praises the heresies emanating from Rome.Th
I don't believe the Popes purpose is to commit heresy.  His purpose is to show compassion for all people. , to meet them where they are. I think of him as having the responsibility of a Doctor in a hospital emergency room.

No offence but no one cares what you think.  Your opinion is dumb.
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(02-06-2018, 08:02 AM)dove77 Wrote: I think Pope Francis is being honest and I do not see him condoning anything as far as behavior against the teachings of the church but is inviting everyone in with all their errors of judgement, all of their blindness, all of their denials and deep rooted injuries that set them off the narrow path so they can be          exposed to the Hope and Truth of Christ. This is the Popes responsibility .

Everyone except anyone who holds to the faith as it was practiced for 1960 years.

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(02-06-2018, 01:30 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: May God have mercy on His Church and may He bring Francis back to the Catholic Faith! How long, O Lord, how long!?


From LifeSite News 

Pope Francis chooses pro-LGBT priest to guide Lent retreat who holds Jesus didn’t ‘establish rules


ROME, February 5, 2018 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Pope Francis has selected a Portuguese “priest-poet” to preach at his 2018 Lenten retreat who is an open promoter of the “critical theology” of a Spanish nun who defends the legalization of abortion and government recognition of homosexual “marriage” and adoptions.

Father José Tolentino Calaça de Mendonça, vice rector of the Catholic University of Lisbon, wrote the introduction to the Portuguese translation of “Feminist Theology in History,” by Teresa Forcades, whom the BBC calls “Europe’s most radical nun.”


In the introduction to Forcades’ work, Tolentino de Mendonça tells the reader that Jesus didn’t leave any rules or laws to mankind, an idea that he approvingly applies to Forcades’ “critical theology.”


“Teresa Forcades i Vila reminds of that which is essential: that Jesus of Nazareth did not codify, nor did he establish rules,” writes Tolentino de Mendonça. “Jesus lived. That is, he constructed an ethos of relation, somatized the poetry of his message in the visibility of his flesh, expressed his own body as a premise.”


When the Portuguese translation of the book was published in 2013 with Tolentino de Mendonça’s introduction, Forcades had well-established herself as an advocate for legalized abortion and the creation of homosexual “marriage.” In the same year she issued a video tribute to the Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who was then dying of cancer.


Tolentino de Mendonça  compares Forcades to Hildegard of Bingham, and says her theology is expressed in “a form that is symbolic, open, and sensitive about addressing the real” as opposed to the Church’s traditional way of speaking in clear, non-metaphorical terms, which he calls “the triumphal univocal grammars that we know.”


“It’s necessary that the doctrinal narrative understands itself to be more of a reading than a writing, more like a voyage than a place, because the memory that transports is not reducible to a legal code, a vision, something automatic,” the priest writes.


Such theology is given to us by Forcades, says Tolentino de Mendonça: “It is precisely here that the frightening [provoking] work of Teresa Forcades i Vila, Feminist Theology in History, which the reader has in his hands, comes to our aid.”


In a 2016 interview with the Lisbon radio station Renascença, Tolentino de Mendonça blasted Catholics and particularly cardinals who have raised their voices in criticism of Pope Francis, dismissing their views as “traditionalism,” which he contrasted with authentic “tradition.”


“Today, we see Pope Francis being contradicted by a more conservative wing of the Church and by some important names, even cardinals, which in a certain way are willing to place traditionalism above the tradition,” he said.


Regarding Pope Francis “welcoming” attitude towards those who are stubbornly living in gravely sinful situations of homosexuality and adultery, Tolentino de Mendonça told the interviewer, “No one can be excluded from the love and mercy of Christ. And that experience of mercy has to be taken to everyone, whether they be Christians who are remarried, wounded by disastrous matrimonial experiences, whether it be the reality of new families, whether it be homosexual persons, who in the Church must find a space to be heard, a place of welcome and mercy.”


Tolentino de Mendonca will preach and give spiritual guidance to Pope Francis and high curial officials during their retreat from February 18 to February 23 of this year.


Thanks for this, it is very informative.
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(02-11-2018, 01:43 PM)MyCupOverFlows Wrote:
(02-06-2018, 01:30 AM)jovan66102 Wrote: May God have mercy on His Church and may He bring Francis back to the Catholic Faith! How long, O Lord, how long!?


From LifeSite News 

Pope Francis chooses pro-LGBT priest to guide Lent retreat who holds Jesus didn’t ‘establish rules


ROME, February 5, 2018 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Pope Francis has selected a Portuguese “priest-poet” to preach at his 2018 Lenten retreat who is an open promoter of the “critical theology” of a Spanish nun who defends the legalization of abortion and government recognition of homosexual “marriage” and adoptions.

Father José Tolentino Calaça de Mendonça, vice rector of the Catholic University of Lisbon, wrote the introduction to the Portuguese translation of “Feminist Theology in History,” by Teresa Forcades, whom the BBC calls “Europe’s most radical nun.”


In the introduction to Forcades’ work, Tolentino de Mendonça tells the reader that Jesus didn’t leave any rules or laws to mankind, an idea that he approvingly applies to Forcades’ “critical theology.”


“Teresa Forcades i Vila reminds of that which is essential: that Jesus of Nazareth did not codify, nor did he establish rules,” writes Tolentino de Mendonça. “Jesus lived. That is, he constructed an ethos of relation, somatized the poetry of his message in the visibility of his flesh, expressed his own body as a premise.”


When the Portuguese translation of the book was published in 2013 with Tolentino de Mendonça’s introduction, Forcades had well-established herself as an advocate for legalized abortion and the creation of homosexual “marriage.” In the same year she issued a video tribute to the Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who was then dying of cancer.


Tolentino de Mendonça  compares Forcades to Hildegard of Bingham, and says her theology is expressed in “a form that is symbolic, open, and sensitive about addressing the real” as opposed to the Church’s traditional way of speaking in clear, non-metaphorical terms, which he calls “the triumphal univocal grammars that we know.”


“It’s necessary that the doctrinal narrative understands itself to be more of a reading than a writing, more like a voyage than a place, because the memory that transports is not reducible to a legal code, a vision, something automatic,” the priest writes.


Such theology is given to us by Forcades, says Tolentino de Mendonça: “It is precisely here that the frightening [provoking] work of Teresa Forcades i Vila, Feminist Theology in History, which the reader has in his hands, comes to our aid.”


In a 2016 interview with the Lisbon radio station Renascença, Tolentino de Mendonça blasted Catholics and particularly cardinals who have raised their voices in criticism of Pope Francis, dismissing their views as “traditionalism,” which he contrasted with authentic “tradition.”


“Today, we see Pope Francis being contradicted by a more conservative wing of the Church and by some important names, even cardinals, which in a certain way are willing to place traditionalism above the tradition,” he said.


Regarding Pope Francis “welcoming” attitude towards those who are stubbornly living in gravely sinful situations of homosexuality and adultery, Tolentino de Mendonça told the interviewer, “No one can be excluded from the love and mercy of Christ. And that experience of mercy has to be taken to everyone, whether they be Christians who are remarried, wounded by disastrous matrimonial experiences, whether it be the reality of new families, whether it be homosexual persons, who in the Church must find a space to be heard, a place of welcome and mercy.”


Tolentino de Mendonca will preach and give spiritual guidance to Pope Francis and high curial officials during their retreat from February 18 to February 23 of this year.


Thanks for this, it is very informative.
This is insane why can't Pope Francis just be more traditional but it seems that He doesn't care if He scandalizes anyone
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