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The Brompton Oratory and I believe, the Oratory in Toronto, regularly celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass entirely in Latin, as well as the Vetus Ordo. And, come to think of it, I think that the Canons Regular of St John Cantius do (or did) as well.
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(05-09-2018, 06:32 PM)CaptCrunch73 Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 06:18 PM)angeltime Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 05:54 PM)CaptCrunch73 Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 04:21 PM)greatdame Wrote: Oh please!  "Vetus Ordo"?  The only truly Tridentine Mass celebrated is from some independent priests and the Sede Vacantists. The 1962 Missal is a compromise which changed Holy Week into a prototype for the Novus Ordo Missae. There are a couple of other versions of the "Latin Mass".  Archbishop Lefebvre felt the 1962 was "substantially Tridentine" and he did not want to be thrown out of the Church by John XXI
III so he went with that.  Let us just stay with the terms Novus Ordo and Latin Mass to avoid the usual attempt at confusing everyone!  As for socializing, usually the "Latin Masses" have a coffee hour after every Mass on Sundays. People are usually friendly, however, some can speak without thinking of another's feelings first. So develop a thicker skin.  Novus Ordo does not usually have a coffee hour after Sunday Mass, probably because they would have more rebellion away from Vatican II's progressivism if they allowed the congregation to actually get to know each other.

I am not sure who is trying to confuse anyone.

The issue with the term Latin Mass is that there are Churches that celebrate the Novus Ordo Mass in Latin, while we can safely assume that on the FE site when someone says Latin Mass it the TLM.
Peace.....yes, I see in this diocese there are NO masses with some Latin thrown in.  In some cases, I see it as weaning the people, and in other cases I see it as covering bases.  (?)  I never heard of the term "Vetus Ordo", and I am assuming that is what this term refers to.  God bless, angeltime :heart:

Vetus Ordo means old form either Francis, Benedict or both used it. I have gone on retreat to a monastery that’s says the Novus Ordo in Latin, in fact there are a few around me. So I have become accustomed to using that term...

Didn’t realize it was offensive.
Peace.....well, it wasn't offensive to me because even though I didn't understand the term, I knew it was the NO with Latin or in Latin.  A priest assured me a long time ago, that it is not the same as the Tridentine Mass and to not confuse the two.  God bless, angeltime
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The Vetus Ordo is not the NO in Latin. It is the TLM, Tridentine Mass, Extraordinary Form, or whatever you call it, but it is not the NO in Latin.
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(05-09-2018, 07:27 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: The Vetus Ordo is not the NO in Latin. It is the TLM, Tridentine Mass, Extraordinary Form, or whatever you call it, but it is not the NO in Latin.
Peace.....there seems to be too many terms for the TLM - is there a specific term for a NO Mass said in Latin or where some Latin is used?  Is Ad Orientum facing east but always in english? or with some latin?
 God bless, angeltime :heart:
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(05-09-2018, 05:32 PM)angeltime Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 04:23 PM)Credidi Propter Wrote: Sometimes communities can get so preoccupied with themselves that they don’t seem to care when a once-zealous new convert falls away. Many Catholics really could stand to be more outgoing. We shouldn’t make going to church into a social hour, but even small gestures of friendliness really can go a long way.
Peace.....I know several NO Parishes that have a Coffee Sunday - monthly.  It's generally the same people who show up, but it is an opportunity if noticing a new person/family, to welcome them to that and introduce them around.

At the Tridentine Parish, there is also a coffee room downstairs used weekly, but most people stay upstairs to chatter and outside in the nicer weather.  God bless, angeltime :heart:
Monthly is not nearly enough.
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(05-09-2018, 07:41 PM)angeltime Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 07:27 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: The Vetus Ordo is not the NO in Latin. It is the TLM, Tridentine Mass, Extraordinary Form, or whatever you call it, but it is not the NO in Latin.
Peace.....there seems to be too many terms for the TLM - is there a specific term for a NO Mass said in Latin or where some Latin is used?  Is Ad Orientum facing east but always in english? or with some latin?
 God bless, angeltime :heart:
Not that I'm aware of. The Typical Edition is in Latin. The vernaculars are translations of that. It's just the NO whether it's Latin or one of the vernaculars.
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(05-09-2018, 07:41 PM)angeltime Wrote:
(05-09-2018, 07:27 PM)jovan66102 Wrote: The Vetus Ordo is not the NO in Latin. It is the TLM, Tridentine Mass, Extraordinary Form, or whatever you call it, but it is not the NO in Latin.
Peace.....there seems to be too many terms for the TLM - is there a specific term for a NO Mass said in Latin or where some Latin is used?  Is Ad Orientum facing east but always in english? or with some latin?
 God bless, angeltime :heart:

I have not heard the term “Vetus Ordo” nearly as much as several other terms. Actually, I’m not sure I would know what it means without context clues, though I probably will after this thread. I’ve been closely following Catholic forums and blogs for 16 years, and I’ve only seen it a few times. It might be helpful for people who use it and want to  make it’s use more widespread to define it when they use it
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Simple. Novus Ordo=New Order in Latin, Vetus Ordo=Old Order in Latin.
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I ran into the term Vetus Ordo at New Liturgical Movemrnt

http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/201...vOUbuv3aK0

I read NLM quite often and assumed (with all the mplications of assuming :D) it was a commonly used Idiom. I will stop using the term based on the response and confusion in this thread.

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(05-09-2018, 03:56 PM)CaptCrunch73 Wrote: To more directly answer your question it's pretty much be friendly and say hello to new people...

It seems to be a phrase that's almost exclusively used within the context of folks living in manifestly sinful lifestyles.
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