Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes

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why should we accept a fake canonization?

when i was naive i thought that the canonization process was set in stone and no human could corrupt the process. I am not naive anymore. if anything i am overly cynical

but in any case, there is no  way I trust the Church hierarchy any more. I have seen and experienced far too much last few yrs..

We shouldn't accept a fake canonisation, but we should trust the Church. If canonisation is infallible, it's not the hierarchy speaking, but the Holy Ghost.

If all we have to accept is that John XXIII and John Paul II are in heaven, I don't have any problem accepting that. I'm sure they made a last confession and received the sacraments. If it's that they exercised heroic virtue in being the best popes ever, well, we're not required to believe that.

Obviously I would not agree with the premise that Canonization is merely "they're in heaven", but the logic is consistent so :  :thumb: