Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes
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(06-06-2018, 09:17 PM)pabbie Wrote:
(06-06-2018, 01:19 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(06-06-2018, 11:52 AM)pabbie Wrote: And please don't bother replying with the lame "not infallible" argument - this quotes a discussion by the Cardinals in the Vatican which is obviously trustworthy:

You do understand that 'trustworthy' does not equal  'infallible'?
 
Who cares? Something doesn't have to be infallible for us to believe it as Catholics. Saying something is "not infallible" when it's not personally comforting to you is to imply that is in error. You are constantly accusing the Church of propagating error when you say this.

Of course the Catholic Faith is more than just what has been infallibly defined.

We believe in Limbo, for instance, a traditional teaching of the Church, which is only a common opinion of theologians (which means denying it doesn't make you not longer Catholic).

Still what is "not infallible" could be in error, because we do not have the infallible assurance of the Church in its Truth.

No one is saying that the quote you keep repeating is in error. I have said before, and will repeat : it does not completely and totally exhaust the Catholic teaching on the issue, especially because, as is clear to everyone else here, other theologians (including Doctors of the Church) have different opinions which are "not infallible" either. 

When the Church has not infallibly defined something, Catholics are free to choose from among the accepted theological opinions, but need to support their arguments with theology, history, science, philosophy, etc.

This is why continually quoting the same thing (which no one here denies presents one tenable opinion on papal heresy), is getting us nowhere. I an others have retorted with equally valid (if not more valid) quotes which present alternate possibilities to try to outline the issue. Returning to the same quote, as if it trumped all the others is a game of "I know you are, but what am I ...".
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RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-10-2018, 06:18 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-11-2018, 01:25 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-11-2018, 01:26 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-14-2018, 05:07 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-15-2018, 02:59 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-12-2018, 08:42 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-13-2018, 12:11 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-29-2018, 10:25 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-30-2018, 01:11 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-30-2018, 02:19 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-30-2018, 09:02 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-30-2018, 02:16 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 05-31-2018, 01:10 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-01-2018, 09:52 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-02-2018, 08:11 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-03-2018, 02:56 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by MagisterMusicae - 06-06-2018, 09:28 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-12-2018, 03:54 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-12-2018, 05:17 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 10:08 AM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 02:14 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 11:04 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-15-2018, 12:16 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-18-2018, 03:46 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-18-2018, 05:25 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-15-2018, 12:14 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 02:21 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 02:39 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 02:35 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 02:42 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 03:01 PM
RE: Vatican canonizes un-Catholic popes - by Paul - 06-14-2018, 04:54 PM



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