God Made You Like This
(05-23-2018, 11:06 AM)BobR67 Wrote: I think this was done on purposes. I was never a conspiracy theorist but I have become one. This is another attempt at getting the camels nose in the tent. Look how the secular media has blown this up, especially the LGBT websites. It doesn't matter if the Pope said it or not, the tooth paste is now out of the tube. This along with the upcoming youth synod is an attempt to normalize homosexuality, act of sodomy and other deviant sexual acts. I don't believe the Pope will make any statement. He is happy that there is confusion. 
Just my take on things.

seems like it

I ignore the pope bc frankly he has nothing to tell me

I don't listen to liberal sounding mishmash. I have enough of a liberal "demon" inside me just from being human.. meaning I have my own sinfulness to deal with, don't need or want to deal with that of the (so called?) pope. To me, he is immature and etc... If he lived out in this hellish world the rest of us have to live in, he would know exactly WHY mortal sins are mortal sins... he would know WHY it is bad (very bad) 4 humans to do perverse things. He has never done homosexual acts, presumably. I never have either but I have done things the Church teaches against and BOY did I ever PAY for it and others paid for my mistakes/sins as well... No wonder Jesus says to some entering or trying to enter Heaven "Depart from me, you evildoers.."

People have no excuse either... Romans 1

people his age have even less excuse... although, again... he doesn't live in the outside world.. the world o/side the Church so really... what does he know? (about certain things)
(05-22-2018, 02:37 PM)gracemary5 Wrote:
(05-21-2018, 12:14 PM)Poche Wrote: God also made the children with downs syndrome. It is ok to have downs syndrome. God loves you very much. 
:) :) :)


are u comparing homosexual acts w/ Down's Syndrome?  (I ask bc i honestly don't get what u are saying here)

obviously one is a moral choice

one is something you really are born with (and is not a sin)

I am comparing the same sex attraction to downs syndrome.
(05-23-2018, 01:03 AM)Paul Wrote: God did not make children with Down's Syndrome, as though He actively intended them to have this disease. He did, of course, create their souls, but their bodies were born that way because of original sin.

If homosexuals are 'born that way', it's because of original sin, not because God approves of it.

Either way, God loves the people with a special love. It is up to us to respond to that love by living the holiness that He calls us to live (that includes living chastity according to our state in life.)
On a related note;

Pope Francis warned Italian bishops this week to vet carefully applicants to the priesthood and reject anyone they suspected might be homosexual, local media reported on Thursday.
"Keep an eye on the admissions to seminaries, keep your eyes open," the pope was quoted as saying by newspaper La Stampa's Vatican Insider service. "If in doubt, better not let them enter."
The Vatican did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the remarks, which Vatican Insider and Il Messaggero said were made at a closed-door gathering on Monday.
Francis's meeting with Italian bishops came just a day after a Chilean man who suffered clerical sexual abuse quoted the pope as telling him in a private conversation that God had made him gay and loved him that way.
The Vatican declined to comment on the report which touched off fierce media speculation that Francis was softening the Church stance on homosexuality. It has previously condemned homosexuality as an immoral disorder if actively practised.
In a 2005 document, released under Francis's predecessor Pope Benedict, the Vatican said the Church could admit into the priesthood those who had clearly overcome homosexual tendencies for at least three years.
But it said practicing homosexuals and those with "deep-seated" gay tendencies and those who support a gay culture should be barred.
The reported comments to the bishops might appease conservatives who have grown alarmed at the way Francis has dramatically shifted the language the Church has used about homosexuality since his election in 2013.
"If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?" the pope said on his first overseas trip in 2013. In 2016, he said he had ministered to people with unfulfilled homosexual tendencies as well as homosexuals who were not able to remain chaste, as the Church asks them to.
"When a person arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say: 'Go away because you are homosexual'," he said.
Pope Benedict wrote in 2005 that homosexuality was "a strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil".


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