I Dont Have Enough Faith to be an Evolutionist - Skepticism of Evolution
(06-29-2019, 11:31 PM)Stanis Wrote:
(06-29-2019, 01:31 PM)cassini Wrote: There are of course many other geocentric quotes from Scripture that confirm geocentrism. 

You brought it the quote. And it doesn't work. Is it possible your other quotes don't really work either?

Stanis, it was the Council of Trent that used one of the many quotes that reveal the earth is still at the centre of the universe and the sun, moon, planets (wandering stars) and stars turn about it. Why in God's name, on a supposed Catholic forum, would anybody challenge this or other teachings.

In 1615, Cardinal Bellarmine, one of the greatest ever theologians of the Catholic Church wrote: 'But to want to affirm that the sun really is fixed in the centre of the heavens and only revolves around itself without travelling from east to west, and that the Earth is situated in the third sphere and revolves with great speed around the sun, is a very dangerous thing, not only by irritating all the philosophers and scholastic theologians, but also by injuring our holy faith and rendering the Holy Scriptures false. Your reverence has demonstrated many ways of explaining Holy Scripture, the Word of God, but you have not applied them in particular, and without a doubt you would have found it most difficult if you had attempted to explain all the passages which you yourself have cited.’    

Now here on this forum I cannot believe how many chose to read the Scriptures according to themselves while ignoring Church teaching.

A year later pope Paul V and Cardinal bellarmine approved the fololowing teaching;'
(1) “That the sun is in the centre of the world and altogether immovable by local movement, was unanimously declared to be “foolish, philosophically absurd, and formally heretical, inasmuch as it expressly contradicts the declarations of Holy Scripture in many passages, according to the proper meaning of the language used, and the sense in which they have been expounded and understood by the Fathers and theologians.”

(2) The second proposition, “That the Earth is not the centre of the world, and moves as a whole, and with a diurnal movement,” was unanimously declared “to deserve the same censure philosophically, and, theologically considered to be at least erroneous in faith.”

Now according to the Magisters that dominate this forum, with likes from a bunch of like minded friends, all of the above can be forgotten as having no truth or authority to it, based on an imprimatur granted in 1820 that he knows nothing about. There are only two ways in which the law pronounced against can be ‘revoked.’ The Church can:
(A) Abrogate it; that is, abolish it completely. But for a law to be abrogated, new legislation must accompany it, stating this clearly, and in justice should state why this is being done. (B) A judgment of a previous pope can be derog­ated. This means that the legislation still remains in force but it has been modified in some way.

Search as much as you like and you will not find an abrogation.

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RE: I Dont Have Enough Faith to be an Evolutionist - Skepticism of Evolution - by cassini - 06-30-2019, 11:33 AM

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