Chicago Parishoners Burn Rainbow Flag : Their Priest Calls For Francis' Resignation
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Four [monks] from Scete dressed in skins once came visiting the blessed Abba Pambo, and they each made known the virtue of another in his absence. The first one fasted a great deal; the second was indifferent to possessions; the third was very charitable. Of the fourth one, they told him that he had been under the authority of an elder for twenty-two years. “I tell you that obedience is greater than the virtue of you all,” Abba Pambo replied to them, “for each one of you has obtained whatever virtue he possesses by his own will, while he, suspending his own will, does the will of somebody else. Such persons are confessors if they hold fast to the end.
(09-22-2018, 07:29 AM)MagisterMusicae Wrote:
(09-22-2018, 04:01 AM)Poche Wrote:
(09-15-2018, 10:35 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: As regards the burning of the rainbow flag, I see no problem, but also worry it won't send the right message and may just foster worse attacks on Christians.

As for the priest calling for Francis' resignation, bad as Francis is, and much as it would be good to get him out of that chair, it's not a priests' place to call for such. That is like the highway patrolman publicly calling for the chief of police to resign. First, the Pope is like one's Father, one does not wish his Father abdicates responsibility, but could wish that his deadbeat father take responsibility. Second, he's the subordinate of the man, so it's really not his place. Lastly, it suggests that the Pope should be subject to public opinion, even if people are right in pointing out his evil actions, democratizes the Church, which, as we can see in the East, is a serious problem.

I tend to agree with the priest and his parishoners but we but we have to remember that the archbishop is in charge of the archdiocese. If he says no then we have to respect that. Obedience before holocausts. At various times Jesus has told his servants that if He Himself should tell them to do something and the superior says no, then He wanted that religious to obey the superior rather than Him.

Obedience is important, yes. Our Lord can to repair by obedience for the disobedience of Adam.

But the Obedience is a potential part of the Cardinal Virtue of Justice. Faith is a theological Virtue. So is Charity. If Faith or Charity demands one act a certain way, or if to protect our Faith we have to do something against the order of a superior, then it must be done, even if there is apparent disobedience.

That is precisely why if a priest's Archbishop told him to read an heretical statement from the pulpit or distribute immoral literature, the priest would be morally obliged to refuse.

Obedience is important, but it not the highest of the virtues.

Four [monks] from Scete dressed in skins once came visiting the blessed Abba Pambo, and they each made known the virtue of another in his absence. The first one fasted a great deal; the second was indifferent to possessions; the third was very charitable. Of the fourth one, they told him that he had been under the authority of an elder for twenty-two years. “I tell you that obedience is greater than the virtue of you all,” Abba Pambo replied to them, “for each one of you has obtained whatever virtue he possesses by his own will, while he, suspending his own will, does the will of somebody else. Such persons are confessors if they hold fast to the end.

https://christdesert.org/prayer/desert-f...obedience/
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It was said of Abba John the Dwarf that he withdrew and lived in the desert at Scetis with an old man of Thebes. His Abba, taking a piece of dry wood, planted it and said to him, ‘Water it every day with a bottle of water, until it bears fruit.’ Now the water was so far away that he had to leave in the evening and return the following morning. At the end of three years the wood came to life and bore fruit. Then the old man took some of the fruit and carried it to the church saying to the brethren, ‘Take and eat the fruit of obedience.’



https://ijboudreaux.com/2016/02/17/the-f...edience-2/
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