baptism question
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(01-27-2019, 10:44 PM)Melkite Wrote:
(01-27-2019, 10:17 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote: In fact it almost certainly is not conditional, but just in case of doubt it is better to offer conditionally to protect the sacrament.

If the minister is not open and the parents are keen or open , I'd suggest you urge them to do the baptism, and instruct them on i, rather than you doing it.

That avoids the questions on liceity or any suggestion that you did something and they were forced into it or communicatio in sacris, with the various questions around that. It also allows you to act as a witness. If one of the parents did the conditional baptism, then it provides two witnesses, only one of whom is family and therefore there is a third disinterested party shuold there be any questions.

Just for the sake of discussing the question: if the parents are opposed, would it be illicit for me to do it secretly (not sure if that is covered under communicatio in sacris)? Invalid?  Unethical?  Immoral?

Regardless of if it is ok, I don't think I could bring myself to do it behind their backs.

I wouldn't do it if you've let them know about the concerns, and they still remain opposed.

It is the fault of the minister. She is obliged in Justice to correct the error.

It is the purview of the parents to ensure the Baptism of their child, so they have a duty to the child to see it is done rightly.

You have an interest in Charity, but that extends only to informing the responsible parties of the problem, and then perhaps providing some means for informing the child later when she can understand the situation. I would in such a case make a testimonial letter up, make a copy to keep among your things, and then find some way to get her a copy at some point, in case you cannot tell her yourself.
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Messages In This Thread
baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 04:56 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 05:33 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 06:16 PM
RE: baptism question - by FultonFan - 01-27-2019, 06:43 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 07:43 PM
RE: baptism question - by FultonFan - 01-27-2019, 08:07 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 09:24 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 10:17 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 10:44 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 11:02 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-27-2019, 05:47 PM
RE: baptism question - by jovan66102 - 01-27-2019, 06:02 PM
RE: baptism question - by Melkite - 01-27-2019, 08:16 PM
RE: baptism question - by Dave Parrott - 01-29-2019, 01:40 PM
RE: baptism question - by MagisterMusicae - 01-29-2019, 05:32 PM



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