Evolution and the CCC
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(03-31-2019, 07:55 PM)Ginnyfree Wrote:
(03-31-2019, 05:56 PM)MagisterMusicae Wrote:
(03-31-2019, 03:01 PM)St. Camillus Wrote: Though widely accepted by Catholics since the pontificate of Pius XII, the claim that theistic evolution is not inconsistent with Genesis is incorrect. There is a Catholic organization called the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation that has done a remarkable job of explaining why theistic evolution is incompatible with Catholic theology.

They Kolbe Center is peddling Protestant fundamentalism as if it were Catholic theology.

And this means what?  Do you support the original posters position or not, that is the question.  If so, what are your own reasons for doing so?  God bless.  Ginnyfree.

I support the Church's position which says that the question of evolution at least in so far as the necessary limits are kept as described by Pius XII, is a question for natural sciences and philosophy, not a theological question.

Thus, so long as those limits are kept, one is free to use natural sciences and philosophy (the guardian of scientific principles) to defend or disprove evolutionary theories.

I take issue, however, with the Kolbe Center, Owen and other Biblicists who in the name of "Catholicism" condemn anyone who doesn't agree with their Protestant fundamentalism they call "the Catholic doctrine of creation". Since they were mentioned by StCamillus, I think it important to point out the problems with them and good theological rebuttals.

I don't find the six 24-hour day account to be literally tenable in the face of modern sciences, and since it is not dogma, I think it better to avoid putting up an obstacle for conversion by making Catholics look like nutjobs. I don't condemn anyone who hold it or prefers it, so long as they don't dogmatize it.

As regards my own personal theory, I don't really settle on any one other than that I don't think the 6,000 year history tenable without prompting worse questions about God and his nature, since it seems many things are very old. Is God then deceiving us? If so, how could he be "He who can neither deceive nor be deceived?" That prompts the dilemma, if we dogmatize the 24-hour day Genesis and 6,000 year old universe, of the science being so wrong that like Luther we should distrust our own reason and just "believe" or that God is deceiving us, and He becomes less believable then. I don't like those options, so I'll go with an older earth and universe, and a much longer span for life in general. Yes it causes us to have to be a bit more analogical and interpretive, but also doesn't call God's nature or our own into question.
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Messages In This Thread
Evolution and the CCC - by Tolkien RRJ - 03-31-2019, 01:37 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by St. Camillus - 03-31-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Melkite - 03-31-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 03-31-2019, 05:23 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Melkite - 03-31-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 03-31-2019, 07:48 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Tolkien RRJ - 03-31-2019, 05:38 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by MagisterMusicae - 03-31-2019, 05:56 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 03-31-2019, 07:55 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by MagisterMusicae - 03-31-2019, 08:17 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 04-01-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by MagisterMusicae - 04-01-2019, 02:50 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by GangGreen - 03-31-2019, 10:22 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 03-31-2019, 05:01 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by MagisterMusicae - 03-31-2019, 06:09 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by Ginnyfree - 03-31-2019, 08:00 PM
RE: Evolution and the CCC - by MagisterMusicae - 03-31-2019, 07:21 PM



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