What do Protestants experience when they describe a “personal relationship with God”?
(08-14-2019, 12:43 PM)boredoftheworld Wrote:
(08-14-2019, 11:22 AM)FultonFan Wrote: I assume everyone’s familiar with “accepting Christ as your personal Saviour” as described by many Protestants. Many of these people seem to be doing what’s right according to a dulled conscience.

So what are they experiencing when they go to Christ in prayer? Are they receiving graces to lead them to full Communion with the Church? Is it something else they’re experiencing?

Having observed evangelical Christians for my entire life either as one or running from them I can say with zero hesitation that the answer to your question is: nothing. They're making it up, usually unconsciously (which is different than subconsciously apparently) or with full awareness. The whole "Personal Lord and Savior" business is a bonkers strawman attack on Catholicism. I think the whole concept arose from theological confusion at the beginning of the 20th century when Christians contrasted their understanding of God as being a Person with the "uncaused cause" of the spiritualists and various weirdos in the UK. Americans, as is typical, took the idea and ran with it while not having even the first clue what they were talking about and decided the whole argument was this personal relationship thing.

That gave rise to the whole "Me and Jesus" insanity which is an extension of American rugged individualism. I suppose it's what happens when political philosophy informs theology rather than the other way round.

I have problems with this viewpoint.
However, I largely agree with you.

I agree with you in that I think many of these people are just preserving their own pride.
“Good works” almost sound like blasphemy to them, and their “faith” is almost like their “get out of Hell free” card, despite whatever they do.

That said: there ARE people in this group that sincerely turn to God in sorrow and repentance (however incomplete it may be, with their rejection of the Church).

What graces are they receiving? As Catholics, we know that all men get sufficient grace to be saved.
Are they receiving anything additional by their turning to God in that manner?
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RE: What do Protestants experience when they describe a “personal relationship with God”? - by FultonFan - 08-14-2019, 01:25 PM

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