Legal Cannabis and Morality
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Quote:If it's not a evil thing then smoking marijuana around children is fine. If it is an evil then then you shouldn't be using it.
For the same reason you (hopefully) don't smoke a cigarette or a cigar around children. You don't want them exposed to the smoke and you don't want to encourage them to smoke by your actions. But let me be clear off the bat that I think smoking cannabis is almost always a bad idea. In a legal market there are far better ways to consume the plant, like tinctures and other extracts.

Quote:How are you obtaining the marijuana? If through a legal channel, are you not then supporting an industry that promotes recreational use of marijuana? Is that not sinful?
As i've said elsewhere, the legal marijuana industry sells cannabis, and people use it for a variety of reasons; some therapeutic, some recreational. The industry simply distributes cannabis, people either use it legitimately (therapeutic purposes) or sinfully (recreationally). The industry itself, inherently, can't be sinful because it distributes a product that can be used legitimately or illegitimately depending on the choice of the consumer. Alcohol businesses are not sinful in themselves just because many of their customers drink to excess and thereby commit grievous sin. It would follow that marijuana businesses are not sinful in themselves just because many of their customers use cannabis as a recreational drug rather than as a substance to treat medical issues. That all being said, I personally would prefer cannabis just be legal for medicinal purposes. It should be a schedule 3 or 4 drug federally, and it should be up to the states to determine qualifying conditions and regulatory regimes. I definitely fail to see how the medical marijuana industry can be construed as sinful in itself, just because some customers abuse it.

Quote:but my point was that there is no legitimate medical use in smoking marijuana.
Fair enough. The only reason it is sometimes smoked for legitimate medical reasons is that the onset of effects (like suppression of nausea or stimulation of appetite) happen much more quickly than other methods of ingestion. But that being said vaporization is always an option, which has the same rapid onset without the harmful carcinogens contained in smoke. So i agree smoking the stuff is not a good or rational way to use the substance therapeutically.

Quote:And yet it has a psychoactive effect, and, I am sure many of the detrimental effects of smoking as well.
The psychoactive effect isn't sinful because it doesn't cause intoxication or any impairment of reason. Granted the harmful effects of smoking do apply, but no Catholic will say tobacco use is sinful in itself, and this would fall into the same category morally. A non-intoxicating smoke may not be good for you but its not necessarily sinful.

Quote:And again, where do you find said flower ... at the shops which sell marijuana and promote marijuana use ... so again, we're back to the same scandalous subculture.
No. You can legally buy it online and have it shipped directly to your door in all 50 states. Hemp and all its extracts and formulations is federally legal in the United States since the 2018 Farm Bill.

Quote:CNN ... really?
Yeah they're terrible, but the documentary series is actually very good. And many of the patients they examine do not in fact smoke the stuff. One is a little girl who suffers from debilitating and life-threatening seizures up to 75 times a day, and a specific strain of low-thc cannabis made into a tincture reduces them to almost zero. This is the real face of medical cannabis. Just because a lot of people abuse it does not change the fact that it is of tremendous therapeutic benefit for a lot of people.

And to make it clear yet again, I am not in favor of recreational use. There is an argument to be made for legalizing general adult use, but I personally lean more toward a policy of permitting and facilitating cannabis for medical use only. That said I don't think the qualifying conditions need be overly restrictive, because it has therapeutic potential for a whole lot of symptoms.
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Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 01:52 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Some Guy - 09-17-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 10:49 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 12:14 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 01:44 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:37 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:58 PM
Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 01:27 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:30 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by VoxClamantis - 09-18-2019, 03:36 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 06:47 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:54 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 06:59 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 07:06 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 07:27 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 11:19 PM
Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 07:33 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Blind Horus - 09-18-2019, 12:40 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by VoxClamantis - 09-18-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Melkite - 09-20-2019, 09:51 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-21-2019, 11:14 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Blind Horus - 09-20-2019, 03:35 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-26-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Florus - 09-26-2019, 06:55 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Ioannes_L - 11-03-2020, 02:16 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Dancing Lion - 11-18-2020, 03:46 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Some Guy - 11-20-2020, 11:23 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by LionHippo - 11-20-2020, 09:26 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Blind Horus - 11-20-2020, 11:26 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by FultonFan - 11-21-2020, 11:49 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 11-23-2020, 10:33 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Harryman9090 - 12-08-2020, 03:33 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Melkite - 12-09-2020, 10:33 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Pandora - 12-09-2020, 12:31 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Melkite - 12-09-2020, 01:03 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by FultonFan - 12-09-2020, 06:53 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by IudicaMe - 03-25-2021, 11:22 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Marmot - 03-25-2021, 11:58 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Marmot - 03-25-2021, 12:59 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 03-25-2021, 11:59 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by AlanK82 - 03-25-2021, 01:19 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by AlanK82 - 03-25-2021, 01:16 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by IudicaMe - 03-25-2021, 01:19 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Marmot - 03-25-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by J Michael - 03-25-2021, 08:28 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by AlanK82 - 03-25-2021, 01:49 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by IudicaMe - 03-25-2021, 01:57 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by AlanK82 - 03-25-2021, 02:17 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Melkite - 03-25-2021, 02:33 PM
Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 03-25-2021, 02:21 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by AlanK82 - 03-25-2021, 04:35 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Blind Horus - 03-25-2021, 05:12 PM



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