Legal Cannabis and Morality
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(09-17-2019, 10:09 PM)1Faith Wrote:
Quote:If it's not a evil thing then smoking marijuana around children is fine. If it is an evil then then you shouldn't be using it.
For the same reason you (hopefully) don't smoke a cigarette or a cigar around children. You don't want them exposed to the smoke and you don't want to encourage them to smoke by your actions.

If smoking is not a bad thing that what is the problem with exposing children to smoke. What is the problem with even encouraging them to smoke by your example?

If it is a bad thing then why should it permitted (except by tolerating an evil that is not able to be eradicated), or why is it moral?

(09-17-2019, 10:09 PM)1Faith Wrote:
Quote:How are you obtaining the marijuana? If through a legal channel, are you not then supporting an industry that promotes recreational use of marijuana? Is that not sinful?
As i've said elsewhere, the legal marijuana industry sells cannabis, and people use it for a variety of reasons; some therapeutic, some recreational. The industry simply distributes cannabis, people either use it legitimately (therapeutic purposes) or sinfully (recreationally). The industry itself, inherently, can't be sinful because it distributes a product that can be used legitimately or illegitimately depending on the choice of the consumer. Alcohol businesses are not sinful in themselves just because many of their customers drink to excess and thereby commit grievous sin. It would follow that marijuana businesses are not sinful in themselves just because many of their customers use cannabis as a recreational drug rather than as a substance to treat medical issues. That all being said, I personally would prefer cannabis just be legal for medicinal purposes. It should be a schedule 3 or 4 drug federally, and it should be up to the states to determine qualifying conditions and regulatory regimes. I definitely fail to see how the medical marijuana industry can be construed as sinful in itself, just because some customers abuse it.

But that industry started in order to provide and encourage recreational use.

If pot shops were to stock only what was medically useful, then clearly they could have an argument that they were just providing for some legitimate medical use, even if some people, like myself would argue that there is no legitimate un-extracted whole plant use. They would have strains which were not high THC. However the industry sells high-THC strains, grows these and cultivates them for the purpose of providing people the ability to get high. They might happen to sell things which there could be some medical use for, but they provide a large number of things which have no legitimate moral use.

By your line of argument argument an "adult "store is not sinful in itself because some of their items could be used by married couples in the context of normal marital relations. Sure they sell porn, and various other items whose purpose is nothing except sinful use, but they are not responsible for the sins of their customers.

Planned Parenthood does provide women's health checkups as well. That some women decide to take contraceptives from them or have abortions, that's not on them.

Jack's pharmacy right next to the adult store might make most of its money from condoms, contraceptives and RU-486, but since they also sell Tylenol, it's morally neutral. They're not responsible for people using their products immorally, since some of them might possibly have, like, some legitimate use, man.

(09-17-2019, 10:09 PM)1Faith Wrote: Yeah they're terrible, but the documentary series is actually very good.

One wonders if it is "good" because it coincides with your conclusions.

(09-17-2019, 10:09 PM)1Faith Wrote: And many of the patients they examine do not in fact smoke the stuff. One is a little girl who suffers from debilitating and life-threatening seizures up to 75 times a day, and a specific strain of low-thc cannabis made into a tincture reduces them to almost zero. This is the real face of medical cannabis. Just because a lot of people abuse it does not change the fact that it is of tremendous therapeutic benefit for a lot of people.

And that piece from CNN intentionally highlights the benefits of people who do not smoke marijuana, and use extractives, just like I have suggested above. The problem is that it's taking those legitimate uses, then gently extending it to smoking, with the intent of open legalization. It's bait-and-switch.

If extractives are so good, then why was "medical marijuana" mostly about providing the plant itself for smoking, and not about legalizing extractives?

At some point the "fruit of the poisonous tree" enters the picture.
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Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 01:52 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Some Guy - 09-17-2019, 06:25 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 10:49 AM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:21 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 12:14 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 01:44 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:37 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:58 PM
Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 01:27 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by piscis - 09-17-2019, 03:00 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:26 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:42 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Augustinian - 09-17-2019, 06:47 PM
RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 06:54 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by 1Faith - 09-17-2019, 07:06 PM
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RE: Legal Cannabis and Morality - by Paul - 09-17-2019, 11:19 PM
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